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727stuff sunshell-front drums-and Input shaft #632962 03/07/10 03:47 PM 03/07/10 03:47 PM
Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 7,348 Mt.Vernon ,Ohio VernMotor OP master
VernMotor OP master Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 7,348 Mt.Vernon ,Ohio	Ok here is a pic of my $10.00 lighten sun shell..Hey it can't hurt And a pic of the 5 clutch front drum for who might want to see it. stock one on the left-5 clutch on the right see how high the snap ring groove is. At the last pic is a input shaft. Look at oil feed hole where I got in mark in red. I have 4 input shafts here.This is the only one with that hole.And this is the shaft I had in the car. I want to use one of the other shafts..But I not sure what this feed hole is. Anyone know ?

Re: 727stuff sunshell-front drums-and Input shaft [Re: VernMotor] #632963 03/07/10 04:50 PM 03/07/10 04:50 PM
Joined: Jun 2006 Posts: 916 MB,CAN PC-CHARGER super stock
PC-CHARGER super stock Joined: Jun 2006 Posts: 916 MB,CAN	It's a lubrication feed for the input shaft bushing. Oil return from the cooler is fed into the mainshaft and through a drilled passage in the mainshaft to the small bushing in the rear drum and then through another passage to this hole to feed the bushing for the input shaft.

Re: 727stuff sunshell-front drums-and Input shaft [Re: PC-CHARGER] #632964 03/07/10 04:54 PM 03/07/10 04:54 PM
Joined: Jan 2004 Posts: 13,247 Mt. Vernon, Ohio dartman366 I Live Here
dartman366 I Live Here Joined: Jan 2004 Posts: 13,247 Mt. Vernon, Ohio	You gonna' have that tranny done by opening day???? Light travels faster than the speed of sound,,,this is why some people seem bright untill you hear them speak.

Re: 727stuff sunshell-front drums-and Input shaft [Re: PC-CHARGER] #632965 03/07/10 05:13 PM 03/07/10 05:13 PM
Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 7,348 Mt.Vernon ,Ohio VernMotor OP master
VernMotor OP master Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 7,348 Mt.Vernon ,Ohio	OK so is there a year change here ..Why do the other shafts do not have it ?..Is it OK to use a shaft that does not have this hole ? OK I see that hole is in the other shaft but not on the bearing surface but below it. Thanks Bill there is still snow on the ground I got time

Re: 727stuff sunshell-front drums-and Input shaft [Re: VernMotor] #632966 03/07/10 05:24 PM 03/07/10 05:24 PM
Joined: Jun 2006 Posts: 916 MB,CAN PC-CHARGER super stock
PC-CHARGER super stock Joined: Jun 2006 Posts: 916 MB,CAN	Not sure on the year of the changes but the lube hole did change location slightly. The other style that does not have the lube hole where you have circled has it located behind the journal area. Still fed from the same hole in the back of the shaft though. The lockup shafts are different yet again.

Re: 727stuff sunshell-front drums-and Input shaft [Re: VernMotor] #632967 03/07/10 05:34 PM 03/07/10 05:34 PM
Joined: Jun 2006 Posts: 916 MB,CAN PC-CHARGER super stock
PC-CHARGER super stock Joined: Jun 2006 Posts: 916 MB,CAN	As long as your spline count is the same, they should interchange. Earlier models had fewer splines and a slightly smaller shaft size. As far as the lubrication hole location, I can't say for sure which is better but my preference would be the one with the hole centered in the bushing.

Re: 727stuff sunshell-front drums-and Input shaft [Re: PC-CHARGER] #632968 03/07/10 05:58 PM 03/07/10 05:58 PM
Joined: Jul 2003 Posts: 267 Northwest, Ohio 360DOUG enthusiast
360DOUG enthusiast Joined: Jul 2003 Posts: 267 Northwest, Ohio	In the picture of your input shaft is that a sealing ring groove on the retainer below the red square? If so it is a 1978 and up input shaft.

Re: 727stuff sunshell-front drums-and Input shaft [Re: PC-CHARGER] #632969 03/07/10 06:01 PM 03/07/10 06:01 PM
Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 7,348 Mt.Vernon ,Ohio VernMotor OP master
VernMotor OP master Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 7,348 Mt.Vernon ,Ohio	Thanks..one of them you learn something new everyday !!

Re: 727stuff sunshell-front drums-and Input shaft [Re: 360DOUG] #632970 03/07/10 06:06 PM 03/07/10 06:06 PM
Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 7,348 Mt.Vernon ,Ohio VernMotor OP master
VernMotor OP master Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 7,348 Mt.Vernon ,Ohio	Quote: In the picture of your input shaft is that a sealing ring groove on the retainer below the red square? If so it is a 1978 and up input shaft. Well I needed to hold still and take a better picture LOL but no it is not.. I know what you are talking about...thanks for looking

Re: 727stuff sunshell-front drums-and Input shaft [Re: VernMotor] #632971 03/07/10 06:18 PM 03/07/10 06:18 PM
Joined: Jul 2003 Posts: 267 Northwest, Ohio 360DOUG enthusiast
360DOUG enthusiast Joined: Jul 2003 Posts: 267 Northwest, Ohio	Good Luck with the trans build. Getting ready to do the same here. I always take my time and double check everything. As you said there is still snow on the ground.

Re: 727stuff sunshell-front drums-and Input shaft [Re: 360DOUG] #632972 03/07/10 07:00 PM 03/07/10 07:00 PM
Joined: Mar 2008 Posts: 307 OH T TheBlackCar enthusiast
TheBlackCar enthusiast T Joined: Mar 2008 Posts: 307 OH	Drum on left is a narrow bush and the other is a wide. If changing over, make sure rest of components match Good Luck

Re: 727stuff sunshell-front drums-and Input shaft [Re: TheBlackCar] #632973 03/07/10 07:09 PM 03/07/10 07:09 PM
Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 7,348 Mt.Vernon ,Ohio VernMotor OP master
VernMotor OP master Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 7,348 Mt.Vernon ,Ohio	Quote: Drum on left is a narrow bush and the other is a wide. If changing over, make sure rest of components match Good Luck Yes it is.. I was just using it show..I need to thow it away..I never use it !

Re: 727stuff sunshell-front drums-and Input shaft [Re: VernMotor] #632974 03/07/10 09:08 PM 03/07/10 09:08 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 25,801 Rio Linda, CA John_Kunkel Too Many Posts
John_Kunkel Too Many Posts Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 25,801 Rio Linda, CA	Quote: At the last pic is a input shaft. Look at oil feed hole where I got in mark in red. I have 4 input shafts here.This is the only one with that hole.And this is the shaft I had in the car. I want to use one of the other shafts..But I not sure what this feed hole is. Anyone know ? The input shaft with the bushing lube hole is pre-'74, in '74 they changed the lube circuit so that the bushing is lubed by the output shaft; at the same time they eliminated the front clutch lube hole in the support, big mistake IMHO. The INTERNET, the MISinformation superhighway

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