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Holley 3310 Tricks? #618728
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I am finishing off my low-buck 440 Dart. I am running a mild 440 with some gears and other stuff. Most of its use will be daily driving with 3-4 times a year to the track. I should note that I live at 4500 ft and the tracks are around 1000 ft elevation.

I have a 3310-2 Holley. It is bone stock and not modified at all.

It needs a rebuild. I am looking at an AED brand for the kit. I will likely do some jetting and tuning. I am not the kind of guy who wants to rebuild the thing everynight, but I would like it to perform well.

What are your thoughts on adjustable secondary kits, jetting the secondary side? What about the fuel lines? They run from $18.00 to over $100. I will be in and out of the primary jetting some I am sure.....

What are your ideas on the best bang for the buck? I don't want a $350 used 750.....but I don't want to give up a .5 second at the track either.

Thanks people.

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Re: Holley 3310 Tricks? [Re: toyotajeep] #618729
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I hate holleys but one thing I learned, since you have to tune them all the time you should get a flexible fuel line, it makes it easier to remove one bowl or the other even if the solid line is prettier.


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Re: Holley 3310 Tricks? [Re: HotRodDave] #618730
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I would buy a rebuild kit and depending on your cam start with a 6.5 or 5.5 power valve. Maybe start with 68 front jets and just leave the rear alone.

Start there and I'll bet you never have to change anything or a size or two jets max. set fairly right they go years without any more adjustments

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Re: Holley 3310 Tricks? [Re: Dodgem] #618731
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I know budget means a lot, but, if you don't have a secondary metering block, buy the kit to put one on. Those metering plates are expensive and it wouldn't take many changes to get you in the cost area of the metering block kit.

That and a secondary spring kit will help a bunch in getting a good carb tune up on your 440.

The flex hose thing... I take the solid set ups, cut the line that runs to the rear bowl, insert a piece of hose. Works great and is low buck.

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I hate holleys but one thing I learned, since you have to tune them all the time...




Not true.


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Re: Holley 3310 Tricks? [Re: Junky] #618733
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I hate holleys but one thing I learned, since you have to tune them all the time...



Not true.



I agree that it is not true. Once they're set up, they stay set up. I don't understand where the unreliabilty URBAN LEGEND comes from...

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The ledgend is rooted in truth and experiance, they need jet changes from altitude changes and temp changes and sometimes they want changes for no good reason. Idle screws seem to need tinkered with every so often to keep them idleing there best. I have fooled with carbs all my life and none of them seem to be as finiky about minor changes than holleys.

Part of some peoples frusteration comes from blown power valves from backfires witch somereason holleys like to backfire more than any other carb when you are trying to tune them. Power valve check valves have definately been a big help in that department.


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The ledgend is rooted in truth and experiance, they need jet changes from altitude changes and temp changes and sometimes they want changes for no good reason. Idle screws seem to need tinkered with every so often to keep them idleing there best. I have fooled with carbs all my life and none of them seem to be as finiky about minor changes than holleys.




And what carb doesn't get affected by altitude and heat changes? And for no good reason? For example...


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Re: Holley 3310 Tricks? [Re: RobX4406] #618737
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Those metering plates are expensive


You can drill/tap them to use regular screw in jets . there's just enough material to get enough threads to hold it. I eyeballed it to find the passages & did it but it was 20 yrs ago & I didn't take pics but when you get in there you'll be able to see where. worked good but did have to play w the jets some.


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I hate holleys but one thing I learned, since you have to tune them all the time...



Not true.



I agree that it is not true. Once they're set up, they stay set up. I don't understand where the unreliabilty URBAN LEGEND comes from...




That urban legend really is based on fact, and now I'm going to explain where most of it comes from. Back in the day the gaskets were junk, if you let the carb sit the cork would shrink like crazy and dry out, carb wouldn't run right, fuel leaks all over. This was especially true with the common rebuild kits. Happened all the time. New good gaskets from Holley, like the no-stick blue ones last virtually forever and give almost no problems.
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""I hate holleys but one thing I learned, since you have to tune them all the time... ""

The tech from Quick Fuel told me that the more accurate the metering systems are on a carb, the more they are affected by temperature changes.
I remember a stock 318 that I had and I never touched that two barrel in 5 years of driving it, Winter thru Summer. The last couple of carbs (QF, & Speed Demon)that I have had did need the metering screws tweeked when the temps changed 15-20 degrees. I don't mind since the car is my weekend toy.


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If the motor runs perfectly with a carb that came straight out of the box, then there's something wrong with the engine.

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OK. I am going to break out my Holley book this week. A good kit, maybe buy the bling adjustable secondary spring kit through AED.

It sounds like the fuel line issue along with secondary jetting options are the big choices at the moment.

I could do the idea of the black rubber hose connecting the two ends, and then slip the solid line in once things get figured out.

Another thing, I think they use a different line depending on if I change over to jettable secondaries. Better get that figured out in my planning before I buy a $80 line kit.

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Another thing, I think they use a different line depending on if I change over to jettable secondaries.


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What are your thoughts on adjustable secondary kits, jetting the secondary side? What about the fuel lines? They run from $18.00 to over $100. I will be in and out of the primary jetting some I am sure.....






Flexible fuel line to enable one less step in opening up the bowls for tuning.
The secondary plate and adjustable secondary lid are both good items to make tuning easier but they only make an easier to tune carb.

This may contradict the first reply but the truth is I have all those "easy to tune" features on my Holley Street Avenger on my daily driven truck.
Fact is I opened the box 4 years ago, installed it and so far not touched it. Oh ya, I did set the idle speed. It was a nice shiney new carb and now it looks 100 years old but performing like new.

Another small tip that I do but rarely have to touch. Remove the secondary stop screw from underneath. Replace it with a set screw that has a hex in it facing up. Now you can adjust your secondary to bleed in a bit more air if you need to. I'm just not into drilling primary blades.


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If you buy a line and cut it and install the rubber hose you can later install the secondary block and just slide the hose out farther and still use the same line.


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what intake , gears , headers , timing curve ?

they all have to work together !

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Stock ignition-I think some of my issues are there. It is going to get fixed first.

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4.10's

It is a budget racer that I can drive to work as well. Low compression 76 440.

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