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Re: Glide VS. 727 in a 2500lb door car [Re: ben1692] #616238
02/22/10 12:15 AM 02/22/10 12:15 AM
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in my opinion we should all put 9 inch ford rear ends. chevy transmissions and pontiac power plants and tell every one look at my mopar its cool get a grip people


My transmission is an aftermarket purpose built race transmission in my Dodge Challenger. When you have to compete on the level that the bracket racers currently are; you best bring the most consistent piece possible.

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Re: Glide VS. 727 in a 2500lb door car [Re: Irun5snd8th] #616239
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When you have to compete on the level that the bracket racers currently are; you best bring the most consistent piece possible.






the correct answer imho

Re: Glide VS. 727 in a 2500lb door car [Re: SCDaytona] #616240
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Well I guess looking into a Glide has a few upset at running GM parts in a Mopar.. But as I see it the more Consistant I am on the track and can run the ## every time will keeep the guy I line up with wondering If...

I will going sticking with the 727 for now. Because it didn't sell at the CC event show in Ohio. But If I sell it I will be going with the Glide set up for sure..

I wonder where the Material Is from to make most of the aftermarket parts in these Trannies..

I think we all have a little bit of others in our Mopars, even if it's a Tywrap hold the front end on..

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Re: Glide VS. 727 in a 2500lb door car [Re: Super Scamp] #616241
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I think someone needs to tell Chip Horton (multi-time winner) to take his 727 out of his car since it is not consistent. LOL Granted he is not making the big power some of you are, but it's all about the chassis, suspension and a lot of the driver as well. Glides work well due to the starting line ratio and only having to shift one gear. But with the digital ignitions of today and a good working car, consistency is possible. Many cars out there with 3 speeds running consistent today. Don't be afraid to work on the suspension to get the car consistent and learning to drive the finish line as well.

Re: Glide VS. 727 in a 2500lb door car [Re: SCDaytona] #616242
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The Powerglide tames my car down a lot. It runs the same with a 1.76 Glide/4.10 combo as it did with the 727/4.56 combo. My car weighs about 2450 with me in it and has 46/54 weight bias.
Re: Glide VS. 727 in a 2500lb door car [Re: sixpakdodge] #616243
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so if you don't have 4 1/2" bolt circle wheels you are running chevy wheels right!

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Re: Glide VS. 727 in a 2500lb door car [Re: MegaDart] #616245
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so if you don't have 4 1/2" bolt circle wheels you are running chevy wheels right!



I run Ford wheels...

Re: Glide VS. 727 in a 2500lb door car [Re: sixpakdodge] #616246
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I am referring to guys like Scotty Richardson, Luke Bogacki, and Ricky Baehr who win darn near every footbrake and or no box race they enter. light car or heavy car you won't find a three speed in one of their cars unless its in stock or super stock and they are required to have them. You wanna line up with one of those boys you better be able to go dead on cause chances are slim you are gonna out drive them at the stripe.

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Re: Glide VS. 727 in a 2500lb door car [Re: ben1692] #616247
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Hey Ben don't you have a pinto rac in your car??

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Re: Glide VS. 727 in a 2500lb door car [Re: julian2007] #616248
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thanks for spreadin the news! i did not this til now its probably a ford stallion rack dont worry were calling mike edwards for a power plant for my dodge

Re: Glide VS. 727 in a 2500lb door car [Re: ben1692] #616249
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Same opinions every time this comes up.

And now here is mine (again): If you pull a 727 out and bolt in a PG, your results will vary depending on the low gear ratio, converter, and the torque curve of your engine. Most of the time, the rearend ratio will have to be changed to get equal or better results. Don't be surprized if your 1.76 PG runs .2 slower than your 727.

And on S/S and Comp, most of them who can have switched from PG to Turbo 350/904/Protrans.
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Re: Glide VS. 727 in a 2500lb door car #616251
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tell rick allison he has a slow car slow and haevy thats why he runs a 727. words that come out of mouths without validation wow

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Re: Glide VS. 727 in a 2500lb door car [Re: ben1692] #616252
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Everyone has an opinion on the subject but what is a fact is that few three speeds are winning many big money bracket races.
Charlie is correct though that if you want to go faster 3 gears is the only way to go! Well to a point anyway. Top fuel is anomoly

Oh and I was talking no box cars above. Any mention of heavy hitters in the box classes must include the king of Mopar bracket racers Johnny Labbous Jr.

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Re: Glide VS. 727 in a 2500lb door car [Re: Irun5snd8th] #616253
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tell that to Chris Weatcraft and his neon with a 604 and 3 speed trans.he has won enough money with that car to pay for it.granted he is a top shelf racer but he has put enough power glides on the trailer to prove that wrong.The same goes for a&a transmissions daytona 572 w/727 trans.You can't hardly swing a dead chicken with out hitting one of there 1 st place plaques.My power glide don't want any thing to do with either one of those guys three speeds.Let alone Ben Cantrells 3 speed challenger he has won so much money with that car that he don't haft to eat off the dollar menu anymore.He just pulls the old hey order a pizza you pick it up and I will pay and then do the "do you have change for a hundred" Way to go Ben my Kids diden't get to go to MC donalds that week.

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Re: Glide VS. 727 in a 2500lb door car [Re: julian2007] #616254
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tell that to Chris Weatcraft and his neon with a 604 and 3 speed trans.he has won enough money with that car to pay for it.granted he is a top shelf racer but he has put enough power glides on the trailer to prove that wrong.The same goes for a&a transmissions daytona 572 w/727 trans.You can't hardly swing a dead chicken with out hitting one of there 1 st place plaques.My power glide don't want any thing to do with either one of those guys three speeds.Let alone Ben Cantrells 3 speed challenger he has won so much money with that car that he don't haft to eat off the dollar menu anymore.He just pulls the old hey order a pizza you pick it up and I will pay and then do the "do you have change for a hundred" Way to go Ben my Kids diden't get to go to MC donalds that week.



With all this iformation I'm getting on the 727 that is being installed in the Scamp project,I better put a big 500+++ inch motor in it to go as fast as Cantrell. So if Cantrell is running a 727 and big motor and leaving the line like a bucking bronco. Looks like the 4-link needs to be fixed .... I guess when I grow up and can run with the big boys then I get a Glide with training wheels.

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Re: Glide VS. 727 in a 2500lb door car [Re: ben1692] #616255
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i guess everyone dont get the point? all im sayin is be proud and run things mopar that are available and work just as well. next we will be putting chevy hoods on our cars! ohh i forget there doing that too. when will it end? why try maybe its time to buy a camaro or mustang and put 440s in them



Im not trying to argue, just make a point, but thats why we choose certain parts..the whole idea, cause it will WORK better than the current setup.
Simply put go fast enough, or make X amount of power stock stuff doesnt cut it. Power Glide transmissions work plain and simple....in the correct application.
Would I use one in a 3700 lbs 8th mile bracket car making 600 hp? No way...
How about the same car with 1400HP Or with a 600hp engine that uses a 400hp plate system?
My rear engine dragster came to me with a 727 torqueflite...LOL..
How well would it have worked with the engine I ended up building for it?
Not near as well as the stock gear power glide I built for it.
When in doubt go back and re-read Gregsdart reply.

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Re: Glide VS. 727 in a 2500lb door car [Re: Super Scamp] #616256
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Pictures of big wheelies DO NOT prove that a car is 60 footing well, you are correct...we just LIKE posting said pics of big wheelies whenever there is an excuse to do so!!!

For the record, I've NEVER converted a 727 car to a glide, I have, however bought 3 mopars that already had glides in them, and have been happy with their performance. The biggest difference IMO is that the convertors for a glide are vastly superior than anything available for a 727/904

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Re: Glide VS. 727 in a 2500lb door car [Re: julian2007] #616257
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tell that to Chris Weatcraft and his neon with a 604 and 3 speed trans.he has won enough money with that car to pay for it.granted he is a top shelf racer but he has put enough power glides on the trailer to prove that wrong.The same goes for a&a transmissions daytona 572 w/727 trans.You can't hardly swing a dead chicken with out hitting one of there 1 st place plaques.My power glide don't want any thing to do with either one of those guys three speeds.Let alone Ben Cantrells 3 speed challenger he has won so much money with that car that he don't haft to eat off the dollar menu anymore.He just pulls the old hey order a pizza you pick it up and I will pay and then do the "do you have change for a hundred" Way to go Ben my Kids diden't get to go to MC donalds that week.


I am personal friends with Wheatcraft and me and him harrass each other all the time on this very subject. I love that car and Chris can get it done on the tree but bottom line is the fellas you mentioned are making their money at events whose names have Chrysler or Mopar somewhere in the name. Show me how many times the Jegs US Open has been won by a three speed car. Show me how many times in the past three years a Tenn Tuck race has been won by a three speed. I am sure there is at least one but its so uncommon and that is my point. The guy who started this post has a 2500 lb bracket car and the best choice for that car and its purpose like it or not is a glide. And my opinion is coming from a guy who has won more than one big money bracket race with a 3 speed. The glide is just the more logical choice

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