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Re: Glide VS. 727 in a 2500lb door car [Re: MegaDart] #616218
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Nice car. I think you will like the glide. You will probably want a 1.80 straight cut gearset though. My 2850# Dart went 1.180 60' numerous times. My 2480# Firebird has gone 1.09 60' on motor and my dragster 1.03
The nice thing is you will have a huge selection of convertors to try. B&M makes a killer 8" that would work well with your combo...




Thanks

Got give the Fosters a shout out they have been helping me get it completed.. What stall would I need for the combo??? ..

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Re: Glide VS. 727 in a 2500lb door car [Re: Super Scamp] #616219
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Nice car. I think you will like the glide. You will probably want a 1.80 straight cut gearset though. My 2850# Dart went 1.180 60' numerous times. My 2480# Firebird has gone 1.09 60' on motor and my dragster 1.03
The nice thing is you will have a huge selection of convertors to try. B&M makes a killer 8" that would work well with your combo...




Thanks

Got give the Fosters a shout out they have been helping me get it completed.. What stall would I need for the combo??? ..




I'd call ATI and get one made exactly to your combo. My ATI converter is some of the best money I have ever spent on the car.

Re: Glide VS. 727 in a 2500lb door car [Re: sixpakdodge] #616220
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i would run a glide before I would run anything from Rick Allison , but you can buy a good TF for half the price elsewhere .........

Re: Glide VS. 727 in a 2500lb door car [Re: rook440] #616221
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My experience was that at a certain performance level the car got hard to hook. About 9.50 at 3000 lbs. Starting line torque combined with starting line ratio is what would decide for me.
A small block car is going to have a much easier time just due to having less torque. A bigblock that is stroked will really give you fits at some point around mid nines because it will have so much torque at the hit the tires just can't hold it. Or in my case it will pitch rotate violently and create problems when it hits the wheelie bars.
If you really like the three speed, them my suggestion would be to run a gear that will pull some torque out at the line, like dropping from a 4.56 down to a 4.10.
Or, if you are an adrenalin freak/test tune type just run it and have fun. Just be assured it won't be boring!


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Re: Glide VS. 727 in a 2500lb door car [Re: Super Scamp] #616222
02/20/10 09:47 AM
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Thanks for all the info guys, look like the glide is going to be the choice. The glide that i'm thinking of getting has a 1.76 cut. so im in the game with this tranny.

Just going to have to work on the converter

You all should see the car this spring at one of the CC events, IM HOPING!!!! If not the Daytona will be thier for sure..




I agree with the 1.80 gearset choice mentioned above and would recommend an ATI 8" Treemaster Vert

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Re: Glide VS. 727 in a 2500lb door car [Re: rickstershemi] #616223
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So guys, is there no way to re-set the gear ratio in the 727. Now, I'm a newbie to this type of trans talk because all I know is TF but we just run mid 10's so are TF has been very consistent. But from the way most of you guys have said, it seems as though the problems are all with first gear being to tall. Is there no way to adjust the ratios to resolve this problem?


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Re: Glide VS. 727 in a 2500lb door car [Re: Super Scamp] #616224
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Convertor selection is very important with the glide, with the right convertor the low gear difference isn't a big deal. I do think if you're going glide you should have a steel drive hub and a good input shaft.

Re: Glide VS. 727 in a 2500lb door car [Re: Adrielp] #616225
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So guys, is there no way to re-set the gear ratio in the 727. Now, I'm a newbie to this type of trans talk because all I know is TF but we just run mid 10's so are TF has been very consistent. But from the way most of you guys have said, it seems as though the problems are all with first gear being to tall. Is there no way to adjust the ratios to resolve this problem?


A&A sells a 2.28 gear set. Expensive, and I don't know what power level they claim it is good for:

http://www.aandatrans.com/


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Re: Glide VS. 727 in a 2500lb door car [Re: Super Scamp] #616226
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in my opinion we should all put 9 inch ford rear ends. chevy transmissions and pontiac power plants and tell every one look at my mopar its cool get a grip people

Re: Glide VS. 727 in a 2500lb door car [Re: ben1692] #616227
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i grip the shifter and make 1 shift.

Re: Glide VS. 727 in a 2500lb door car [Re: sam64] #616228
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Love my glide, works great
for me, MPH is great

Re: Glide VS. 727 in a 2500lb door car [Re: Bob_Coomer] #616229
02/20/10 11:33 PM
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Whats the comparison?
Are your looking for consistency? At 2500 lbs I would be looking at a glide without question.




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Re: Glide VS. 727 in a 2500lb door car [Re: ben1692] #616230
02/21/10 11:21 AM
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in my opinion we should all put 9 inch ford rear ends. chevy transmissions and pontiac power plants and tell every one look at my mopar its cool get a grip people


Ha-ha.
I have Dana 60 from a Chrysler car, Chrysler TF727 transmission, and Chrysler BB power plant. It is cool.

But bracket racing allows modifications, and the PG works.


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Re: Glide VS. 727 in a 2500lb door car [Re: Super Scamp] #616232
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Swithed from 727 to glide prior to last season. Trans has 1.98 first gear. Not calm out of the hole. Slightly more consistent. Don,t have a lot of runs, but great piece. Costs way more money than 727. I ran 727 for years. Glide reacts quicker on pro tree. I'm at 2750 lbs. If I had to do it over for the money I would stick with the 727.



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Re: Glide VS. 727 in a 2500lb door car #616233
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i guess everyone dont get the point? all im sayin is be proud and run things mopar that are available and work just as well. next we will be putting chevy hoods on our cars! ohh i forget there doing that too. when will it end? why try maybe its time to buy a camaro or mustang and put 440s in them

Re: Glide VS. 727 in a 2500lb door car [Re: ben1692] #616234
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why be so upset about it?run what you like and move on,i think it has something to do with our freedom,not real sure,as to why we do things.here this one still has a 727 in it.

Re: Glide VS. 727 in a 2500lb door car [Re: sam64] #616235
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Can someone tell me how when I look at a picture of a car in a wheelie and how it translates to a fast leaving car? LOL .Heck when I ran my 70 Cuda with a small block in the 11's, it would pull the wheels a foot or so. Can't remember the exact 60' for that car, but it was no where near the 1.15 I run today. Pro stocks leave only a few inches in the air and most dragsters don't wheelie at all and the 60's for those are 1.09's or better.

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Re: Glide VS. 727 in a 2500lb door car #616237
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I better keep this post. I'm still hammering on my 904s (I got 2).I know that the 904 is the reason for inconsistant reaction times due to pulling the wheels out of the lights.The wheelies are fun but going home early isnt.If the traction is really the problem is worse.I'm sure I'll be looking at a change in the future.

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