Re: Double flare tubing tool
[Re: justinp61]
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02/06/10 02:32 PM
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I borrowed a KD 2190 from a guy at work, and it works perfect. I've never seen another one made quite like it. I am now on the lookout for a good deal on one to get for myself. I messed around with some of those typical ones and they all slipped. I wouldn't mind the hydraulic style ones, but they sure are pricey for no more than I would use them.
1968 Charger project. I don't have a fender tag or a buildsheet, so it's getting a 440. Help me decide on a color--most everything looks great! (NOT white. My Challenger is white. Need some variety :D) 1974 Challenger 360 2012 Challenger R/T 1991 Dakota 5.2
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Re: Double flare tubing tool
[Re: 2Bad360sfromNC]
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02/06/10 03:31 PM
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I borrowed a KD 2190 from a guy at work, and it works perfect. I've never seen another one made quite like it. I am now on the lookout for a good deal on one to get for myself. I messed around with some of those typical ones and they all slipped. I wouldn't mind the hydraulic style ones, but they sure are pricey for no more than I would use them.
That style works the best I think, I have a similar one that's about 30 years old.
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Re: Double flare tubing tool
[Re: Moneypit6]
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02/06/10 03:40 PM
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Go to ebay and you will find some very good used ones for cheaper than new.
Allen
Here's a novel idea, let's not throw a bunch of parts at the car hoping it will fix the problem and instead spend a little time diagnosing it first.
Life was a little easier when I was just a wrench.
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Re: Double flare tubing tool
[Re: Moneypit6]
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02/06/10 04:23 PM
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I borrowed a KD 2190 from a guy at work, and it works perfect. I've never seen another one made quite like it.
http://www.sjdiscounttools.com/kdt2190-78.html
A whole $14.53. Hmmm
That is for the four inserts 2190-78. The picture is misleading. The whole set is just p/n 2190 with no -78. Yeah, if I could get the whole deal for 15 bucks, I'd get a couple of 'em!
Last edited by 2Bad360sfromNC; 02/06/10 04:36 PM.
1968 Charger project. I don't have a fender tag or a buildsheet, so it's getting a 440. Help me decide on a color--most everything looks great! (NOT white. My Challenger is white. Need some variety :D) 1974 Challenger 360 2012 Challenger R/T 1991 Dakota 5.2
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Re: Double flare tubing tool
[Re: jcc]
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02/06/10 05:34 PM
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After years of frustration with the $50? Summit type tools, I dropped a few hundred on the real hydraulic double flare tools, and glad I did.
The ability to make perfect double flares and no more frustration from trying to use a cheaper tool makes it priceless. NOTHING is more frustrating that getting to the last flare on a complex bend and having a cheap flare tool ruin the work. ...except have it happen twice...
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Re: Double flare tubing tool
[Re: Lefty]
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02/06/10 06:21 PM
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After years of frustration with the $50? Summit type tools, I dropped a few hundred on the real hydraulic double flare tools, and glad I did.
The ability to make perfect double flares and no more frustration from trying to use a cheaper tool makes it priceless. NOTHING is more frustrating that getting to the last flare on a complex bend and having a cheap flare tool ruin the work. ...except have it happen twice...
I couldn't have said it better. I just went through this on some 3/8 fuel lines. I borrowed a friends Mastercool hydraulic set and it was a breeze. I will be buy a kit soon.
Dan
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Re: Double flare tubing tool
[Re: jcc]
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02/06/10 07:15 PM
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After years of frustration with the $50? Summit type tools, I dropped a few hundred on the real hydraulic double flare tools, and glad I did.
Did the same thing.....Mastercool here...One of the best tools in my box.....
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Re: Double flare tubing tool
[Re: OzHemi]
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02/06/10 08:25 PM
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My a/c crimper is a Mastercool, they seem to make real nice stuff
I have a Mastercool setup and it is awesome. Factory looking flares without having to remove the line from the car after you bend it up.
The main problem with the flaring tools that are sold is that they are made for "thin wall" tubing. I have yet to see a parts store that sells said think wall tubing. Did you ever notice that your tubing vice (the thing that holds the tube) makes the tube oval when tightened down? This is because you are using thick wall tubing. I have never seen a cheapy double flaring kit made for "thick wall" tubing.
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Re: Double flare tubing tool
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02/06/10 11:25 PM
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I know what your talking about, the cheaper tools will do that. You can make it work by tightening the end of the tool closest to the tube first, then tighten the farthest away second. Tightening the longer end of the tool last gives it more leverage to grip the tube better. Does that make sense?
Exactly what I do with the cheap HF one that I have. Run closest end down first then tighten the far wingnut. Works fine.
I'd like to have one of the better quality pieces, but, you gotta work with what you have and mine was free!
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Re: Double flare tubing tool
[Re: RobX4406]
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02/06/10 11:58 PM
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I'm wondering if the sandpaper trick would take care of it, sure sounds worth a try
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