This post is dedicated to everyone that thinks the date of their tag & or paperwork is the date the car was actually made.


Evidently, if a dealer did not pay for an ordered car on time, it could delay that cars production, no matter what the sheduled production date on the paperwork says.

I have a few pages of paper work for this car, it is a 1969 wagon, here are some dates from the different pages;

7-10-1968 - The order form was filled out by the dealership.

9-24-1968 - The Advance Dealer Shipping Notice was issued by Chrysler to the dealer. (image above)

A01 (10-1-1968) Scheduled Production date from the same page.

10-2-1968 - Dealer noted that check was sent.

10-8-1968 - Chrysler received check & sent receipt.

10-8-1968 - Chrysler issued the invoice to the dealership.

10-17-1968 - Client picks up car at dealership.

How did you end up with all this for the same car?
Sure adds a few more flies to the ointment.

When was the fender tag made? before the car started to roll down the line, or after it was off the line and waiting delivery?

The paperwork came form a dealership in NY.

The fender tags were made at the body-in white phase.

The SPD was part of the vehicle order number, so if a car was late they would have to start changing records before they could alter the tag layout.

Here's a stupid question...I assume the SPD on the fender tag will match the VIN sticker date correct? I took a pic of my origonal VIN sticker before removing it but the pictures didn't turn out. The sticker was obviously destroyed upon removal.
They looked off of the same paperwork to stamp the fender tag and print the VIN decal right?

Well, it depends.

The Mylars were typed & applied near the end of the line. So, if the car was actually made late, it my have the next month on the Mylar.

If it was made early, it may have the previous month on the Mylar.

If there is a registry for your make & model, contact them to see if they have a clear photo of yours.

For folks with 1970 Hamtramck cars I can give you a rough idea of what cars were made closest to yours if you have a broadcast sheet for it.

There is no way to know the actual build date though.

Quote from my most recent post in the broadcast sheet section since it applies here also...

My 69 has a B08 fender tag,which was Friday Nov. 8 1968. It was a St Louis car. I took delivery Monday Nov.11. Is it possible the car was built before Nov 8? It would have been possible to get it to the dealership over the wk. end.

Possible for sure.

Tracking a cars dates codes can be educational too. My T/A has a SPD of 417. The original engine has a final assembly date five days later, so my car was likey made at least 6 days late.

True production dates are guesswork at best.I'd say for the majority of Mopars the true date is +/- 2 weeks of the date stamped on the fender tag; excluding package cars that use a common date ie A12's.This early 69 Fury is a good example.The SO # in the upper right corner is 803...this is the date stamped on the fender tag.The car was actually shipped to the dealer on 8-16.The scheduled date is 7-25.....I'm not positive but I think this is the date that the car was actually scheduled to have been shipped.??
Ideas?
One thing for sure...for the most part VIN's and the date stamped on fender tags run hand in hand.Example: the above poster with the St Louis B Body with the B08 date...Vin # will be in the 9G162xxx to 9G163xxx range.Again excluding package cars...440 Darts,A12's etc this is nearly always true but every once in a while there is a wild car(d).

very interesting

Tav

What is the TSM code 1E2 in the highlighted green bar ? Can you post a pic of the back of the invoice plz. Very cool paper..

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What is the TSM code 1E2 in the highlighted green bar ? Can you post a pic of the back of the invoice plz. Very cool paper..

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E signifys the year 1969.I think the #'s have to do with the car line and model.I have a couple hundred of these invoices...I'll scan a couple when I get a minute.Back side is contract BS...I'll post if you want.

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Do you happen to know if the AA1 Buffed Silver would hold up the cars build date due to the buffing

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Didn't appear to.I have a couple of Invoices for AA1 cars and they are in the same average time frames as other paint codes.

Parts shortages from vendors would be a much more likely cause than buffing paint.

Hey Barry - my SBD was 10-13-69 for a dealer ordered Challenger R/T(Hamtramk). Based on front and rear seat tag codes and the date stamped on the "crush can" the car was built no earlier than 10-29-69. Parts shortage or labor issue? I'd love to know what y'all think .

Without being there at the time, there is no way to know.