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Re: Anyone use this stroker kit from Mancini?? [Re: JohnRR] #539061
11/30/09 11:24 PM
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Must be the name of who sells the kit makes them better than some of the other low buck stroker kits out there. There all the same, diamond, ross, or keith black pistons , unnamed h-beamed rods and crank . I must say that is a good deal. How much for a balance job?




No , it's alot more than just who is selling it , and if you think they are all the same then you should just buy the cheapest ...






sometimes i wonder if people really believe that stuff, or is it true that rationalization is man's best friend?

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... is it true that rationalization is man's best friend?



All I need is a big bowl a rationalization to go w/ a tall glass of cold milk and a box of vanilla wafers and I'm all set.

Re: Anyone use this stroker kit from Mancini?? [Re: BradH] #539063
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That package I believe is from Best Machine. They have set up crate engines and rotating assemblies to sell thru Mancini. My


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Re: Anyone use this stroker kit from Mancini?? [Re: drmopar] #539064
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These stroker kits come unbalanced as you may have your machine shop do additional work.

However, they can be ordered balanced for an additional $300.

Thanks.

Mancini Racing
800-843-2821
www.manciniracing.com

Re: Anyone use this stroker kit from Mancini?? [Re: Mancini Racing] #539065
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These stroker kits come unbalanced as you may have your machine shop do additional work.

However, they can be ordered balanced for an additional $300.

Thanks.

Mancini Racing
800-843-2821
www.manciniracing.com



is'nt there a special deal moparts members get from mancini if asked? what would the cost be with said discount???

Re: Anyone use this stroker kit from Mancini?? [Re: Mancini Racing] #539066
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These stroker kits come unbalanced as you may have your machine shop do additional work.

However, they can be ordered balanced for an additional $300.

Thanks.

Mancini Racing
800-843-2821
www.manciniracing.com




I hope that's a REAL balance job for that amount and not the typical use the number on the box and ASSuME the maker is telling the truth and actually has the parts within their own specs ?

If not then this is why I say buying prebalanced is waste of money.

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DRAM, what are you saying? Do you like or dislike Eagle stuff? Some of your post is why I would never buy an Eagle product.

Re: Anyone use this stroker kit from Mancini?? [Re: drmopar] #539068
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That package I believe is from Best Machine. They have set up crate engines and rotating assemblies to sell thru Mancini. My




Is this true?
If it is..I wouldnt think twice about having them balance it. Although $300 is on the high side for a nice balance job around here. You know it to Be right coming from those guys.

Can anyone confirm this?

I had a good chuckle out of the comment thad all those pistons were the same.. Other than CP Diamond pistons IMO were the best pistons out there...Although these Wiesco pistons for this Hemi was very, very close in weight. Right at a half gram.

I think that Eagle cranks and Scat even though are Off shore forgings are a little better than the no name stuff...I know they are tough from experiance. Im willing to bet that the Eagle crank, and rods I have run has over 1000+ runs on it.


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Re: Anyone use this stroker kit from Mancini?? [Re: Bob_Coomer] #539069
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Bob, If you reread my post, it say's , diamond, ross, keith black pistons and unnamed crank and rods. All names of different piston manufactures that supply pistons to those kits, not that there the same manufacturer, there might be more also. Regarding the no name crank and rods, who is the supplier of those? could be eagle, scat , cat or dog .



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Re: Anyone use this stroker kit from Mancini?? [Re: tboomer] #539070
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I was looking at the same kit as i'll be making a decision on a 493 stroker kit in a week or so.....I spoke w/ my machinist/engine builder and he says thats WAY cheaper than what he can get Eagle kits for.
I called mancini racing and inquired why this kit was so cheap and it was explained that the rods are chevy sized (2.20) which brings the price down considerably. Also there is no balance on it (all the better). the only difference that I can see is that the Pistons are Diamond and not SRP like in the Eagle direct kits.

components as stated from the web site:
MANCINI - 493 ci 440 Flattop piston Stroker Kit
Kit includes: Diamond flat top lightweight forged pistons wit .990 pin and Diamond moly piston ring set. Eagle 4340 forged crank with 2.200" rod journal. Eagle ESP H-Beam rods. Clevite Tri metal rod and main bearing set.
$1,450.00
MRE440-493-FLAT

i'm i missing something? it sounds like a craigs list scam. or is this a no brainer, cause the timing couldn't be better.......


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Re: Anyone use this stroker kit from Mancini?? [Re: supercomp] #539071
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DRAM, what are you saying? Do you like or dislike Eagle stuff? Some of your post is why I would never buy an Eagle product.




i'd be happy to answer that, but it's not really a yes or no answer regarding Eagle parts. i don't want to take this thread off target unless the O/P gives his blessing.

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DRAM, I'd like to hear your experience with Eagle products, good or bad. Not all of us build motors on a regular bases and look to these forums for research on what works and doesn't.....thanks.


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Re: Anyone use this stroker kit from Mancini?? [Re: 71TrakPak] #539073
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DRAM, I'd like to hear your experience with Eagle products, good or bad. Not all of us build motors on a regular bases and look to these forums for research on what works and doesn't.....thanks.




This was my experience with an Eagle crank... Granted it was cast but I highly doubt my little 408 was pushing 500+ hp. Not knocking the crank itself, I feel they overrated it's capabilities, but I am knocking their customer service. With other manufacturers out there, it's enough for me not to buy Eagle again. For the record, the eagle and scat cranks are not the same. The RPM's, however, look just like the scats.




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Must of had your fan belt to tight. Isn't eagle supposed to be the best of the lower priced cranks? Never seen a crank break on the front.



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Re: Anyone use this stroker kit from Mancini?? [Re: dodgeboy11] #539075
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With the great reputation that Mancini has,I wouldn't hesitate to jump all over a deal like that.


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Re: Anyone use this stroker kit from Mancini?? [Re: rowin4] #539076
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Must of had your fan belt to tight. Isn't eagle supposed to be the best of the lower priced cranks? Never seen a crank break on the front.






I'd run a scat before I'd run an Eagle. And that's without the issues I had. One of the journals on this crank was tapered and went under the low. I had correct clearance though and I had to wait weeks to get this crank so I ran it. The pistons hit the counterweights and the pilot bushing hole is an odd size.

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Dan...Speak up!! I would like to hear your thoughts on the crank..The eagle should be better than my 40 year old one...I can't remember but my crank may be an old Kellog. BGR told me how to check that. This engine has been together since 2001 and has a boatload of passes on it. I still think that the Mancini kit is the way to go. I bought my first overhaul kit from them and they have always treated me good!!


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Re: Anyone use this stroker kit from Mancini?? [Re: tboomer] #539078
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I have used several of those kits and have never had an issue. The only thing that I had done was skin the crank to get the clearance I wanted.


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Jake...That's what I like to hear!! Dan...Speak up...I am waiting...


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Re: Anyone use this stroker kit from Mancini?? [Re: tboomer] #539080
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Ted I would use the SCAT crank. I have seen to many eagle cranks that are poorly made. Thats why i got rid of mine and went with a Callies. My next motor will be all SCAT rotating with JE pistons. If you want i can have my engine builder in florida price you a scat rotating. Just give me a call and tell me what you are looking for and i will call him and get a price for you.

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