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Re: Where did this 426 Hemi come from? [Re: autoxcuda] #523052
11/11/09 01:34 PM 11/11/09 01:34 PM
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Yes it would have been a late 71 car for sure, but May is a several months shy of the end of 71 production. I HIGHLY doubt if it's a dealer stamped warranty block but if it were you'd more than likely find a tag, the special rivot that held it on, or at least the hole it made.
Re: Where did this 426 Hemi come from? [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #523053
11/11/09 01:41 PM 11/11/09 01:41 PM
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Just for reference, here is a pic of another St.Louis block (G440HP).

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'70 Super Bee 440 6 pack 4-spd 4.10 Dana N96 EB5
‘70 Super Bee 440 6 pack 4-spd 3.54 Dana FC7
‘70 ‘Cuda 440+6bbl 4-spd 3.54 Dana N96 EB5 V1W
Re: Where did this 426 Hemi come from? [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #523054
11/11/09 02:52 PM 11/11/09 02:52 PM
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I looked at the block, it's within an acceptable range for your car, in general a bit early but acceptable. The price however, is rediculous IMO, good bare pre 69 blocks don't normally bring over 3-4K



I have noticed several '66 cast blocks go for between $4800 & $5100 on e/bag.
Re: Where did this 426 Hemi come from? [Re: flathood] #523055
11/11/09 03:14 PM 11/11/09 03:14 PM
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That's why it's called an "estimate", your results may vary. Bottom line these days 10K is foolish money for a 66 block.
Re: Where did this 426 Hemi come from? [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #523056
11/11/09 04:49 PM 11/11/09 04:49 PM
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FWIW...I agree that is most likely out of a 71.

Matching the VIN to the engine assembly date may help.

for 69, VIN 219*** would have an SPD of 212 - this would be before your engine assembly

for 70, VIN 219*** = 410, again before your engine assembly.

For 71 VIN 215*** = 512 and 225*** = 602. So the VIN range and your engine assembly date fit best with a 71 model.

This leaves GTX's, Road Runners, Super Bees and Charger R/Ts as possible donors.

Seeking:

1969 St. Louis plant VINs, SPD, and VONs.
Over 2,000 thanks to you!
Re: Where did this 426 Hemi come from? [Re: berrost] #523057
11/11/09 07:53 PM 11/11/09 07:53 PM
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Update - I actually think I found the car and owner talked to him for an hour. He pulled the motor in 82 and put it in the Belvedere. He still has the 71 Roadrunner it came out of. We are discussing options. Thanks for all the help
Re: Where did this 426 Hemi come from? [Re: berrost] #523058
11/11/09 08:21 PM 11/11/09 08:21 PM
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That's cool. How did you manage to find him?
Re: Where did this 426 Hemi come from? [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #523059
11/11/09 08:54 PM 11/11/09 08:54 PM
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That's cool. How did you manage to find him?


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Yea inquiring minds want to know........how in the wild wonderful world did you locate him?
Re: Where did this 426 Hemi come from? [Re: gomangoRTSE] #523060
11/11/09 09:39 PM 11/11/09 09:39 PM
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When I bought the Belvedere 3 years ago I spent 6 months chasing the cars history, this guy was the second owner and has the original trans which I wrote some notes down about. Today I called him to work out getting the trans and asked him if he ever did an engine swap and he said he put a 68 hemi in the Belvedere. When Imentioned the 71 he said he thought this engine went into a Cuda he had at the time and was lost forever.
Now comes the decission - does the engine go to the car or will the car come to the engine. He is chewing on it now. one way or another the package will reunite.
Thanks to all of you for the help - guess I really need to find that 66 block now, and BTW he thinks he knows where that is also.
its been a good day.
Re: Where did this 426 Hemi come from? [Re: berrost] #523061
11/11/09 10:18 PM 11/11/09 10:18 PM
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Cool beans, hope it works out for both of you. FWIW, it will be pretty tough to find a date correct 66 block, that ebay example was a pretty lucky find so soon in your search being as close as it was, too bad it's priced on the moon.
Re: Where did this 426 Hemi come from? [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #523062
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Thanks, I have actually been searching for the correct 66 block for over 2 years, found many from May-Oct but none that support my SPD of 4-29-66
Re: Where did this 426 Hemi come from? [Re: berrost] #523063
11/11/09 10:54 PM 11/11/09 10:54 PM
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1966 motors are very common, you should be able to come up with what you want. 1971 cars usually have Jan, 1970 cast blocks or 1969 cast blocks there are some other dates that were put into 1971s also. The 1970 blocks were put into the most of the a cars and the very late cars got the 1969 blocks. There are exceptions but this is a generally what happened in the 1971 Hemi Build.

1971 HEMI E BODY REGISTRY
Re: Where did this 426 Hemi come from? [Re: berrost] #523064
11/12/09 07:24 AM 11/12/09 07:24 AM
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Thanks, I have actually been searching for the correct 66 block for over 2 years, found many from May-Oct but none that support my SPD of 4-29-66



I'm in the same boat. I've been looking for over five years for a block for my '67 GTX with a 1-12-67 SPD. I did pick up a 0.020 over BH block with a 4-12-18 final assembly date that I'll probably use once I give up trying to find the correct one.

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Re: Where did this 426 Hemi come from? [Re: 6PakBee] #523065
11/14/09 10:58 PM 11/14/09 10:58 PM
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Attention all: talk about a small world, Roger here (last reply) is the gentleman that has the actual block for my 1966 Belvedere II Hemi car (bought it off the second owner of the car). I finally chased him down today after many hours of internet searching to find he was the last posting on this trail.
What a wonderful Mopar world we live in - you would never find Chevy people doing this!!!!!
Re: Where did this 426 Hemi come from? [Re: berrost] #523066
11/14/09 11:28 PM 11/14/09 11:28 PM
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Very cool! 2 Hemi cars will be reunited with thier original engines? Doesn't get much better than that! Looks like your original engine falls right inline with what it should, a week or so before the cars SPD (the car probably got built a bit sooner than the scheduled date, Hemi engines didn't sit around long at all once built).
Re: Where did this 426 Hemi come from? [Re: berrost] #523067
11/14/09 11:45 PM 11/14/09 11:45 PM
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BTW, your Hemi Belvedere wouldn't happen to be black would it? I knew of one a guy in Concord owned, it was a project car, maybe the same car?
Re: Where did this 426 Hemi come from? [Re: berrost] #523068
11/15/09 12:21 AM 11/15/09 12:21 AM
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Attention all: talk about a small world, Roger here (last reply) is the gentleman that has the actual block for my 1966 Belvedere II Hemi car (bought it off the second owner of the car). I finally chased him down today after many hours of internet searching to find he was the last posting on this trail.
What a wonderful Mopar world we live in - you would never find Chevy people doing this!!!!!





It sounded like he had no idea there was any connection to your car when he made that post?? Talk about finding something right in front of you. Unbelievable. And berrost has a whopping TWELVE posts and runs into this!!

Did the block go from California to North Dakota? No hopefully back to California?

Congratulations.
Re: Where did this 426 Hemi come from? [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #523069
11/15/09 01:35 AM 11/15/09 01:35 AM
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Very cool! 2 Hemi cars will be reunited with thier original engines? Doesn't get much better than that! Looks like your original engine falls right inline with what it should, a week or so before the cars SPD (the car probably got built a bit sooner than the scheduled date, Hemi engines didn't sit around long at all once built).



Would love to reunite my block with the original car,I'll stick with the aftermarket blocks for what I do

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Re: Where did this 426 Hemi come from? [Re: hemi-itis] #523070
11/15/09 01:43 AM 11/15/09 01:43 AM
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From what I can read it appears yours is a halloween built 1968 production model year engine. Is there a VIN sequence number up on top of the rear bell housing mounting flange?
Re: Where did this 426 Hemi come from? [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #523071
11/15/09 01:47 AM 11/15/09 01:47 AM
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Scott what is the SPD of the st louis car your pic shows?
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