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Re: Odd Overheating Problem [Re: MoparforLife] #460400
09/07/09 09:19 AM
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GreenBlurr,

I to am offended at your response. Frankly we can do without your comments. To assume we are all idots and kids is foolish. If you want to comment on a thread keep it civil or keep quiet.I would have thought maybe you had a bad day or something but since you commented twice I believe you are just that way.


To some people thier way is the only way. The rest of us don't know anything.
Yeah those 'tools' do work but there are millions of cooling systems filled without using this that that have no problems. Evidently this is just idiot's luck.





Yea that was harsh, I know you get aggravated by some peoples response when you try to help but you should blow it off.

I guess I have been lucky over the years. Last weekend I flushed my 71 440s coolant and let run for about 20 mins in the driveway and all seems well?

"Got everyone's attention though didnt i. and now they read, and now they learned."

I learned not to talk down to people, thanks.

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Re: Odd Overheating Problem [Re: Challenger 1] #460401
09/07/09 11:38 AM
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"Got everyone's attention though didnt i. and now they read, and now they learned." Not true. As soon as I saw the idiots comment I stopped reading so the rest was just a waste of space to me.

Re: Odd Overheating Problem [Re: stumpy] #460402
09/07/09 03:26 PM
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Back to the original topic, why not put the 160 degree thermo back in and see if your problem goes away and go from there?

Re: Odd Overheating Problem [Re: 10sec440] #460403
09/07/09 07:16 PM
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Back to the original topic, why not put the 160 degree thermo back in and see if your problem goes away and go from there?


If you have a good stat it will not/can not cause over heating.

Re: Odd Overheating Problem [Re: BadFishy] #460404
09/07/09 09:59 PM
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I've always had good luck burping the coolant system by removing the heater hose on the intake manifold (small block) and filling through the radiator until coolant came out of the heater hose fitting, which is higher than the thermostat.
I can't speak to the effectiveness of this procedure on a big block though.

good luck

Re: Odd Overheating Problem [Re: convertriple] #460405
09/13/09 08:21 PM
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Okay, I am back. Problem solved and CHALLENGER1 WINS! Does anybody want to buy a slightly defective thermostat housing? ;-)

I pulled the housing and checked the machined edge - the side that mounts on the pump. Sure enough, there was a very small, about 1/4 inch depression right where the gasket had blown out. It wasn't noticeable until I sanded the entire surface with a hard sanding block and, voila, there it was! I guess what had happened was that before, when I was having no problems, I had put enough sealer on the gasket to seal the housing in spite of the defect. But upon putting in the new thermostats, I had only used cork gaskets, with no sealant, and that was not enough.

Looking inside the housing, I see it was made in Taiwan - nice chrome, but obviously lousy quality. Anyway, I junked the housing and bought a Billet Specialties polished billet housing. That one comes with and O-ring instead of using a gasket, and allen wrench bolts. It looks great and matches several other aluminum parts under the hood too. I took it out for a test drive, got on it several times and no problems whatsoever.

Thanks everyone for the input. And I have to admit, I was thinking that... well, if a head is cracked, I guess it wouldn't be too bad a day if I had to go out and buy a set of those aluminum Eddy's!


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Re: Odd Overheating Problem [Re: BadFishy] #460406
09/13/09 08:33 PM
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Where do I pickup my prize?

Re: Odd Overheating Problem [Re: Challenger 1] #460407
09/13/09 08:43 PM
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Probably not worth driving from Cincy for a defecto Chinese thermostat housing! But if you want, you can also have a couple bags of rock salt and two snow shovels since I am moving to Florida. Oh, wait, I gave those to my mother-in-law.


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Re: Odd Overheating Problem [Re: Challenger 1] #460408
09/14/09 07:12 AM
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Where do I pickup my prize?




Looks like you are two for two (first this problem then mine) You got my vote for Guru status.

Re: Odd Overheating Problem [Re: Challenger 1] #460409
09/14/09 08:57 AM
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Where do I pickup my prize?


Right here Just because his stat housing doesn't leak anymore, doesn't mean his problem is gone. Appears as though his over-heat problem went away with the new stat housing also?????????? Normally, the highest cooling system pressure occurs after shut down, when the engine heat soaks ( and that's when the stat housing leaks at it's worst), not as you rev up the motor - unless you are pumping air in to the cooling system. Not sure who anymore, but someone used to sell a kit that would detect exhaust gasses in the cooling system. Good way to verify that all is ok.


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Re: Odd Overheating Problem [Re: Crizila] #460410
09/14/09 11:37 AM
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Where do I pickup my prize?


Right here Just because his stat housing doesn't leak anymore, doesn't mean his problem is gone. Appears as though his over-heat problem went away with the new stat housing also?????????? Normally, the highest cooling system pressure occurs after shut down, when the engine heat soaks ( and that's when the stat housing leaks at it's worst), not as you rev up the motor - unless you are pumping air in to the cooling system. Not sure who anymore, but someone used to sell a kit that would detect exhaust gasses in the cooling system. Good way to verify that all is ok.






He didn't have a overheating problem before he changed the thermostat, why would have one after changing it other than the thermostat housing leaking???

What do you think he should do? Change the head gaskets??

Re: Odd Overheating Problem [Re: Challenger 1] #460411
09/14/09 12:04 PM
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Where do I pickup my prize?


Right here Just because his stat housing doesn't leak anymore, doesn't mean his problem is gone. Appears as though his over-heat problem went away with the new stat housing also?????????? Normally, the highest cooling system pressure occurs after shut down, when the engine heat soaks ( and that's when the stat housing leaks at it's worst), not as you rev up the motor - unless you are pumping air in to the cooling system. Not sure who anymore, but someone used to sell a kit that would detect exhaust gasses in the cooling system. Good way to verify that all is ok.






He didn't have a overheating problem before he changed the thermostat, why would have one after changing it other than the thermostat housing leaking???

What do you think he should do? Change the head gaskets??


Read his entire post - including the post title ( "odd overheating problem "). Leaky t-stat housings don't cause overheats, but overheats can cause leaky t-stat housings. I think he should go a little farther to verify he doesn't have a head gasket problem - if his initial post and diagnosis as an overheating problem ( only when he mashed on the gas pedal )was correct. Obviously, time will tell. Here is your prize =


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