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Re: Post up your oil choice!!! [Re: Bob_Coomer] #451394
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Re: Post up your oil choice!!! [Re: Bob_Coomer] #451395
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So what do you guys think is so special about your oils? I never know what to buy because everyone claims their's is best anyway. I've been using Pennzoil 10w30 or Castrol GTX 10w30. I used to run 15w40 Rotella. And I've used 10w40 Royal Purple, still have half a case in the shop. I can get Mobil 1 10w30 easy enough and thought I'd try that. Never had a problem with any of them.
Pennzoil 10w30 is in my car now though.

Don.

Re: Post up your oil choice!!! [Re: Bob_Coomer] #451396
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It was a solid lift cam but i think my "advice" on springs was too much as i was running K-Motion 800 springs on a Crane cam 560/580 lift 258/268 with Howard lifters.Just to clear things here I'm not saying one or the other product was to blame! But i ran the VR1 oil as it is recommended for flat tappet push rod engines and now that i have a MP590 cam in there i will be running that oil again.I think the pressure of the springs was too much IMO.Right now i will be running a little less pressure then recommended.Still in shock mode I guess.I don't know who too believe anymore? Never enough spring pressure,too much spring pressure???
Just don't know why it hit #7 intake and everything else was perfect? Not even one full season.


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Re: Post up your oil choice!!! [Re: MoparDonny] #451397
08/27/09 11:03 PM
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Quote:

So what do you guys think is so special about your oils? I never know what to buy because everyone claims their's is best anyway. I've been using Pennzoil 10w30 or Castrol GTX 10w30. I used to run 15w40 Rotella. And I've used 10w40 Royal Purple, still have half a case in the shop. I can get Mobil 1 10w30 easy enough and thought I'd try that. Never had a problem with any of them.
Pennzoil 10w30 is in my car now though.

Don.




People prefer “special” oils because of what’s formulated into them.

Nothing wrong with Pennzoil 10w30, Castrol GTX 10w30 or Mobil 1 10w30, but they are API (SM) rated oils. SM rated oils are required to have lower zinc and phosphorus levels which is not a problem in newer cars.

If you’re running a older modified V8 with a high performance flat-tappet camshaft, you need motor oil with higher levels of zinc and phosphorus.

Do a search here of the board for zinc and phosphorus (ZDDP).

Re: Post up your oil choice!!! [Re: 77DragracerR/T] #451398
08/27/09 11:33 PM
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It was a solid lift cam but i think my "advice" on springs was too much as i was running K-Motion 800 springs on a Crane cam 560/580 lift 258/268 with Howard lifters.Just to clear things here I'm not saying one or the other product was to blame! But i ran the VR1 oil as it is recommended for flat tappet push rod engines and now that i have a MP590 cam in there i will be running that oil again.I think the pressure of the springs was too much IMO.Right now i will be running a little less pressure then recommended.Still in shock mode I guess.I don't know who too believe anymore? Never enough spring pressure,too much spring pressure???
Just don't know why it hit #7 intake and everything else was perfect? Not even one full season.




I'm running a fast ramp Comp solid, 350# open w/double springs. About 1,000 street miles and a little dyno time. So far, so good...

I ripped the oil sample from another member here...

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Re: Post up your oil choice!!! [Re: 64Post] #451399
08/28/09 12:08 AM
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I've found that the filter is more important than the oil. The zinc thing is something to consider these days but head to head, oil is oil. I'm talking a given 10W-40 versus another 10W-40, etc. Not a syn oil against a dino, or any other combinations like that.


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Re: Post up your oil choice!!! [Re: SomeCarGuy] #451400
08/28/09 11:54 AM
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I've found that the filter is more important than the oil. The zinc thing is something to consider these days but head to head, oil is oil. I'm talking a given 10W-40 versus another 10W-40, etc. Not a syn oil against a dino, or any other combinations like that.




You are right that motor oil filtration is an important factor.

The Society of Automotive Engineers (SAE) has known this for a while now.

See also: SAE Oil Filter Testing and Correlation Between Engine Wear.pdf - link

As for motor oil, if we are talking about comparing a non-race off-the-shelf name brand API rated petroleum 10W-40 to another 10W-40, probably not much difference there.

However, motor oil formulators have a vast menu of base oils and additives to consider when formulating a motor oil product. This goes for both conventional petroleum oils as well as synthetic oils. Based on a price to performance ratio, formulators can use inexpensive ingredients or high dollar ingredients to meet their objectives.

This is why some motor oils cost more than others; because motor oil is not created equal.

Retired VP of Marketing at the Hatco Corporation, Tom Schaefer, can explain this better than I can.

Excerpt from fom Schaefer’s article, What’s In Your Oil: Choosing the right components of the right chemistry in the right dosages is a real balancing act, as each of the components have their own pluses and minuses and can interact or compete with each other. Don’t try this at home - leave it to companies you trust who have the technology, R&D, and resources to achieve the necessary balance so critical to performance.

Read Tom Schaefer’s full article: What’s In Your Oil - link

Re: Post up your oil choice!!! [Re: CompSyn] #451401
08/28/09 12:13 PM
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So I guess I'm the only one using Kedall 30WT...

Re: Post up your oil choice!!! [Re: 70dusterjohn] #451402
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summit's 10w40 race oil

Re: Post up your oil choice!!! [Re: 05dakota] #451403
08/28/09 06:55 PM
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Caterpillar 15-30 with Hughes additive.

Re: Post up your oil choice!!! [Re: moparmattkos] #451404
08/29/09 09:42 PM
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Re: Post up your oil choice!!! [Re: srracing8] #451405
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What is so great about Brad Penn everyone recommends.. other than saying brad penn list why? I am gonna run a solid roller setup... local speed shop has it for $13 qt

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Re: Post up your oil choice!!! [Re: moparniac] #451406
08/29/09 11:23 PM
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What so great about Brad Penn is it is $3.75 a qt. for 10-30 and 20-50 here, and it is the only oil that my engine builder says to use.

Re: Post up your oil choice!!! [Re: ironjay] #451407
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i paid over 7 bucks since nobody within 100 miles stocks it.

Re: Post up your oil choice!!! [Re: CompSyn] #451408
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Quote:

So what do you guys think is so special about your oils?




Absolutely nothing....other than it's NOS SJ

I buy old forumlations where I can find them and get a good deal on them.

Re: Post up your oil choice!!! [Re: ZIPPY] #451409
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Pennzoil 50 for me.

Re: Post up your oil choice!!! [Re: RobR] #451410
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Mobil One 5/20 in bracket mode. Gibbs 0wt for class.


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Re: Post up your oil choice!!! [Re: moparniac] #451411
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What is so great about Brad Penn everyone recommends.. other than saying brad penn list why?




Look at the phosphorus and zinc content in the lab test I posted above and compare it to the other brands.

Re: Post up your oil choice!!! [Re: 64Post] #451412
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Re: Post up your oil choice!!! [Re: ETASPEN] #451413
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