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Broken motor mount ears on block
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08/23/09 11:46 PM
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This block came back from the machine shop with one ear broke on each side.  Can this block still be used with the stock mounts? Id really like to not have to run a plate/elephant ears as it will be bear to mount my alt and get pulley alignment, but.... If it matters, I do use a chain on the drivers side to stop torquing. Opinions?
Last edited by Von; 08/24/09 08:23 AM.
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Re: Motor mount ear pics
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08/23/09 11:47 PM
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72 RR, Pump gas 440, 452s, 3800 lbs, Corked, ET Radials,. 11.33@117.72.
Same car, bone stock 346s, 9.5 comp, baby solid. 12.24@110.
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Re: Motor mount ear pics
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08/23/09 11:48 PM
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If it were a Factory big block A body the driver side would not be a concern .
is it the one single ear on the other side ?
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Re: Motor mount ear pics
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08/23/09 11:50 PM
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is it the one sigle ear on the other side ?
If you mean the one single ear broke, yes. One ear on both sides is broke.
72 RR, Pump gas 440, 452s, 3800 lbs, Corked, ET Radials,. 11.33@117.72.
Same car, bone stock 346s, 9.5 comp, baby solid. 12.24@110.
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Re: Motor mount ear pics
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08/24/09 12:11 AM
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Von, i just put a plate on my car and mounted the alternator down low, it wasnt hard and didnt cost a penny. if you decide to go that route i could send you pics
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Re: Motor mount ear pics
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08/24/09 12:12 AM
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Von, i just put a plate on my car and mounted the alternator down low, it wasnt hard and didnt cost a penny. if you decide to go that route i could send you pics
Thanks for the offer. If I go that route I'll hit you up for the pics.
Any opinion on the ears?
72 RR, Pump gas 440, 452s, 3800 lbs, Corked, ET Radials,. 11.33@117.72.
Same car, bone stock 346s, 9.5 comp, baby solid. 12.24@110.
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Re: Motor mount ear pics
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08/24/09 05:45 AM
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I use elephant ears and haven't had a problem, if you look in the tech section on BBD, It shows you how to make and fit them.
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Re: Motor mount ear pics
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08/24/09 11:08 AM
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Call the shop and tell them to find the broken piece. They broke it, atleast they can find it. With this piece, it can be welded with a Ni rod, or stainless rod...
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I wouldnt sweat it.You have the other two bolts to hold the engine. All of them on the other side, use the torque strap, and forget it.
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Re: Motor mount ear pics
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08/24/09 11:45 AM
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exactly! I would be more upset with the machine shop, and make them fix it, and then re-check everything for square!
if THEY broke the ears off, then THEY need to fix it, and adding that much heat to the block, you might distort cylinder bores or something, so THEY should check everything to make sure it hasn't moved
but, bottom line, yes it can be fixed and use your stock motor mounts. I saw bob george's work fixing some blocks for his customers, and holy crap! I used to think a window in the side of the block meant it was junk, but not anymore!
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Re: Motor mount ear pics
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08/24/09 12:21 PM
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is it the one single ear on the other side ?
If you mean the one single ear broke, yes. One ear on both sides is broke.
doooh , yes like that , you added the second picture as I was typing my reply , I didn't see it .
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Re: Motor mount ear pics
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08/24/09 01:44 PM
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exactly! I would be more upset with the machine shop, and make them fix it, and then re-check everything for square!
if THEY broke the ears off, then THEY need to fix it, and adding that much heat to the block, you might distort cylinder bores or something, so THEY should check everything to make sure it hasn't moved
but, bottom line, yes it can be fixed and use your stock motor mounts. I saw bob george's work fixing some blocks for his customers, and holy crap! I used to think a window in the side of the block meant it was junk, but not anymore!
Well the ears were broke off 2 years ago when this block was machined. The guy who did the machine work is a good enough machinist, but a clown. Took about 6 months or more to get the block from him, finally got it home and didnt notice the ears were gone a few months down the line. Before I figured out he was a clown I took him the 440 block that is in my car at the moment. I paid to have the cam bearing journals corrected. (Journals too small from the factory, cam fit WAY too tight.) When I picked the block up he had scraped the bearings to fit my cam. No biggie, but I paid to have the block corrected. He also tried to charge me an extra 150 for a line hone. No dice, didnt ask for it, block didnt need it. Didnt pay for it and wont ever pay for it. Short verstion of the story, I never had a chance to get the ears back.
Like said above, no way I'll braze or weld on the block now. Warped cylinders dont appeal to me. 
Just for giggles I think I'll fashion something and epoxy it. Maybe a thin bushing, epoxy it to the block, etc. Yeah, I know its a waste, but I want to see if the epoxy will adhere to the block and stay adhered.
72 RR, Pump gas 440, 452s, 3800 lbs, Corked, ET Radials,. 11.33@117.72.
Same car, bone stock 346s, 9.5 comp, baby solid. 12.24@110.
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Re: Motor mount ear pics
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08/24/09 01:55 PM
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Von, i just took the shumacher torque strap off my car. sell it to you $50 if your interested
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Re: Broken motor mount ears on block
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08/24/09 07:45 PM
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build it up with JB weld - might take a couple of tubes by looking at the pix. I built up a mounting boss on my Jeep 4.0 and have run it 4 years on the strip with no prob;ems. You might drill and tap the mt and put a 1/4 20 bolt in to wrap the JB around - Make a form with tape and cardboard, then add the JB
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