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Re: Hemi news [Re: 71TA] #3288678
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Originally Posted by 71TA
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But I thought the Hurricane 6 cyl was the bestest evar -not because of the overuse of plastic and poor rushed design with zero QC and the fact NO ONE wants it- but because on paper it looks good.


The wife and I went to the Mopar Tech Center open house YEARS ago. 12+ years ago? We went on a "special" tour and I askled the guy, "whats that engine on the dyno stand". He said you arent SUPPOSED to see that but its the new Hurricane. I have no opinion good or bad BUT, DAMN, that thing had been around for a LONG time before being introduced/used. Is 10+ years typical. Seems extreme. I assumed after that much testing the thing would have been bullet proof like the old slant six.


As I understand it was made to compete with Ecoboost under FCA but they stopped spending money years ago to pay down debt so they could become a good merger partner. So its no big conspiracy why it almost instantly went into production after the merger.

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Originally Posted by Sniper
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Regardless of the Hurricane Eng being an established engine- the fact remains it is junk. Maybe a good design with poor execution? Doesn't matter because hard working Americans are screwed when they buy this garbage engine that has no fix-from a company and dealer network who does not care. Even the highly ranked Toyota Company has a garbage 6 cyl in their Tundra. Difference is I see NOBODY- not even loyal Toyota fan boys bragging up how great the new Toyota turbo 6 cyl is. The big three need to make a Robust, well designed powerful NA V8s that will last with common sense Prev maint.


Blah, blah blah

You got any facts are are you just running your piehole in OD?

I haven't heard anything factual about the Hurricane, good or bad, but frankly I am not in that market anyway.
. Don't believe me. Heck don't believe techs that work on it. Feel free to buy one. https://youtu.be/nl_2Q7AHIG0?

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Originally Posted by 2boltmain
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Regardless of the Hurricane Eng being an established engine- the fact remains it is junk. Maybe a good design with poor execution? Doesn't matter because hard working Americans are screwed when they buy this garbage engine that has no fix-from a company and dealer network who does not care. Even the highly ranked Toyota Company has a garbage 6 cyl in their Tundra. Difference is I see NOBODY- not even loyal Toyota fan boys bragging up how great the new Toyota turbo 6 cyl is. The big three need to make a Robust, well designed powerful NA V8s that will last with common sense Prev maint.


Blah, blah blah

You got any facts are are you just running your piehole in OD?

I haven't heard anything factual about the Hurricane, good or bad, but frankly I am not in that market anyway.
. Don't believe me. Heck don't believe techs that work on it. Feel free to buy one. https://youtu.be/nl_2Q7AHIG0?


Technically, the engine is not 'new'. But, it sure seems like Stellantis is going down the same rabbit-hole as Ford did when they did their turbo and twin-turbo 6-cylinder and jammed it into their trucks. I will pass


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If that pic of the “cuda” is real, it just looks like the 4 door charger front with extra scoops. They need something better than that to go with the name. Better have something better than a 6 cylinder in it too.

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Originally Posted by roadrunninMark
If that pic of the “cuda” is real, it just looks like the 4 door charger front with extra scoops. They need something better than that to go with the name. Better have something better than a 6 cylinder in it too.


If what I heard is true it'll be mustang size and much smaller than the charger, it may very well just be a new challenger too.

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I took some heat from a few members for calling out the Hurricane 6. Why is it hard to believe a company run by an American Culture hating foreigner named Carlos Tavares would deliberately sabotage the brand and products? One does not learn these things when getting info from traditional sources or sources that have a financial interest in presenting positively on Stellantis. Some are Fanboys that ignore all the bad. Tim Kuniskis is the man that brought Americans the fun and ultra Powerful Challengers and Chargers. He was the man in charge of the FUN part of Mopar. But he was eventually forced out by Carlos. How was he forced out- Was he fired? No- he was made to promote junk- junk that Tavares knew would make Kuniskis quit. Tim is a Mopar muscle guy from our era- or at least LOVES Mopars from the greatest era. Forcing him to promote the EV with the FAKE exhaust note was the final straw that made Tim leave. Carlos Tavares intentionally rushed the Charger EV and by getting it to market by a certain date he then received tens of millions in bonuses. The Charger EV is junk. Google it. The Hurricane 6 is riddled with plastic, cost cutting engineering and no QC with no fix available. Owners of the H6 get jerked around at the dealer with BS repair gimmicks and tactics. CDJR (Chrysler Dodge Jeep Ram) is in such dire straits right now that the board forced Carlos to step down. The new CEO is named John Elkann. He knows that America is not Europe. He brought BACK Tim Kuniskis along with other FORMER CDJR people. They have a MESS to clean up. Oh- and Carlos had permission to keep going with V8s in the Ram but chose not to- instead replacing it with the Hurricane 6. The info is out there. How about entire fleets of new Dodge police pursuit vehicles that are defective and unusable? Yes, its true. These vehicles are not necessarily powered by the Hurricane 6- but they were made under the cost cutting measures of Mr Tavares. Anyone who enjoys purchasing new vehicles must show their disapproval by not buying the defective models and force the MFGR to do better. CDJR needs to do better.
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Originally Posted by Dart 500
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That motor isn't going anywhere


So Dart 500 how does this reply vindicate the H6? You are saying there are ZERO issues with the Hurricane 6? The Stellantis techs- who nick named it the Shi#@ Storm and are making videos about how bad it is- they are not being truthful? And you and I will agree- when an item is desirable and provides great value to a consumer that item enjoys robust healthy sales. Why then are the H6 Rams and another one of your admired cars- the Electric Charger rotting on dealer Lots?


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Originally Posted by Dart 500
The hurricane was in development for years, its not something that was rushed out the door. IIRC its just their 4cyl they've been using for decade+ with 2 cylinders added to it and so far they've been holding up fine. The hemi is only going to be available in lower trims, like work truck base models or I assume a value pack truck seeing as the classic is now gone which will rev up sales that they desperately need



Thats funny, I needed a 4 cyl for an 18 journey and anything decent miles was $2500 bucks because they are junk and they can't keep em in stock.


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Originally Posted by 2boltmain
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That motor isn't going anywhere


So Dart 500 how does this reply vindicate the H6? You are saying there are ZERO issues with the Hurricane 6? The Stellantis techs- who nick named it the Shi#@ Storm and are making videos about how bad it is- they are not being truthful? And you and I will agree- when an item is desirable and provides great value to a consumer that item enjoys robust healthy sales. Why then are the H6 Rams and another one of your admired cars- the Electric Charger rotting on dealer Lots?


It went on a drag and drive getting beaten on all week running 10's in stock form

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Always a silver lining. Due to the overwhelming rejection of the poor-quality Hurricane 6 engine in the Rams- Stellantis is bringing back the Hemi in the Rams. Hopefully the tick is remedied. CDJR needs not a win- but many sales success Wins. It's just a shame CDRJ is not an American owned company. The Challenger and Charger were truly amazing in that- younger people who don't know and who don't care about the 1963-1972 era of great Mopars would buy the modern Dodge muscle simply because they like them! Thats what you want- the young demographic buying your product. Harley Davidson is an example where only the older crowd that has an affinity for the 60s stuff Buys HD bikes (And the older guys generally have the money for such an expense.) You want preferably to appeal to all the age demos and present different pricing options. Many don't know this, but the (Modern times) Challenger consistently outsold the Camaro. This is huge! Us older guys know that traditionally the Chevy Camaro sales ALWAYS buried the sales of the Mopar equivalent.


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Originally Posted by Dart 500
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That motor isn't going anywhere


So Dart 500 how does this reply vindicate the H6? You are saying there are ZERO issues with the Hurricane 6? The Stellantis techs- who nick named it the Shi#@ Storm and are making videos about how bad it is- they are not being truthful? And you and I will agree- when an item is desirable and provides great value to a consumer that item enjoys robust healthy sales. Why then are the H6 Rams and another one of your admired cars- the Electric Charger rotting on dealer Lots?


It went on a drag and drive getting beaten on all week running 10's in stock form


That's the BEST example you can come up with?!?!??!?! A race prepped and maintained one? Hardly a representative example for anyone to base their decision on when deciding which truck to buy. Hardly a 'Win on Sunday, sell on Monday' kind of experience.


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"That's the BEST example you can come up with?!?!??!?! A race prepped and maintained one? Hardly a representative example for anyone to base their decision on when deciding which truck to buy. Hardly a 'Win on Sunday, sell on Monday' kind of experience."

I think Dart 500 is too emotionally invested in the Hurricane 6 to acknowledge that it is a failure. The new way to learn about things are individual content creators- Youtubers. I like to watch the prominent youtubers who do NOT get frills, kickbacks and invites from car manufacturers. Obviously, they don't get these benefits because they report on the bad. The latest version of Motor Trend or Consumer Reports will not fully report the things that can lead to a vehicle not selling. They don't want to bite the hand that feeds them. I started watching video clips almost 2 years ago on how the Hurricane 6 was NOT ready for mass production- and that Mr Tavares was made aware of this, but he ordered full steam ahead anyway.


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Lol I am not going to waste my time arguing with boomers on here about an engine. It'll speak for itself as it gets out there into more hands and they'll work out any issues as every new engine has like the 04-08 hemi that loves dropping valve seats. You can now buy a ram with 550hp and soon a charger with AWD and 550hp that will be easily cranked up to over 700. Only a fool would think thats a bad thing.

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Originally Posted by DaveRS23
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Stock 550hp Hurricane in a Dakota



That motor isn't going anywhere


So Dart 500 how does this reply vindicate the H6? You are saying there are ZERO issues with the Hurricane 6? The Stellantis techs- who nick named it the Shi#@ Storm and are making videos about how bad it is- they are not being truthful? And you and I will agree- when an item is desirable and provides great value to a consumer that item enjoys robust healthy sales. Why then are the H6 Rams and another one of your admired cars- the Electric Charger rotting on dealer Lots?


It went on a drag and drive getting beaten on all week running 10's in stock form


That's the BEST example you can come up with?!?!??!?! A race prepped and maintained one? Hardly a representative example for anyone to base their decision on when deciding which truck to buy. Hardly a 'Win on Sunday, sell on Monday' kind of experience.


I could show you this, but you dont care, you have a cult mentality.


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Wait until it costs 10 grand more than the 6 cylinder and has to be ordered with a bunch of other options that you don't want.


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Originally Posted by Dart 500
Lol I am not going to waste my time arguing with boomers on here about an engine. It'll speak for itself as it gets out there into more hands and they'll work out any issues as every new engine has like the 04-08 hemi that loves dropping valve seats. You can now buy a ram with 550hp and soon a charger with AWD and 550hp that will be easily cranked up to over 700. Only a fool would think thats a bad thing.


Ok your calling me a BOOMER explains a lot. It explains why you were ignoring all the bad (and there is ALOT) while quoting- even bragging up the Rosey specs from Dodge. You make the same claims as EV fanboys do when the huge negative realities of the EV are made public. The fanboys when addressing CATASTOPHIC issues simply reply: "They will figure it out." This post is YOUR post. You were posting the good news that the Hemi is coming back. Thats is great news ESPECIALLY that will be made here. But why is it necessary to bring back the V8 Hemi in the first place? I mean the H6 is better because it makes more power and torque than the Hemi. Why then did CDJR feel the need to bring back the V8 if the H6 is better? Take some advice from a Boomer- do not buy a Hurricane 6 POWERED anything if you want reliable fun decent transportation.


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Originally Posted by Dart 500
Lol I am not going to waste my time arguing with boomers on here about an engine.

whistling You say that......and then go on to post:

It'll speak for itself as it gets out there into more hands and they'll work out any issues as every new engine has

You mean like the Italian 6 cylinder diesel they suckered some buyers into? puke

like the 04-08 hemi that loves dropping valve seats. You can now buy a ram with 550hp and soon a charger with AWD and 550hp that will be easily cranked up to over 700. Only a fool would think thats a bad thing.

And only a fool would believe the latest hype with the track record that has ALREADY established.realcrazy


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Originally Posted by 2boltmain
Regardless of the Hurricane Eng being an established engine- the fact remains it is junk. Maybe a good design with poor execution? Doesn't matter because hard working Americans are screwed when they buy this garbage engine that has no fix-from a company and dealer network who does not care. Even the highly ranked Toyota Company has a garbage 6 cyl in their Tundra. Difference is I see NOBODY- not even loyal Toyota fan boys bragging up how great the new Toyota turbo 6 cyl is. The big three need to make a Robust, well designed powerful NA V8s that will last with common sense Prev maint.


Thought Toyota came out and stated that the engines weren't cleaned properly and when assembled had metal shavings in them causing most of the issues.


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