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Re: turbo big blocks
[Re: go green]
#327785
05/25/09 01:37 AM
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budget and turbo in the same sentance . HA
Actually....my brothers shop has built several for people and they are way cheaper to build that a pro-charged motor if you do everything yourself. The head units are much cheaper....
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Re: turbo big blocks
[Re: tims69belvedere]
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05/26/09 09:45 PM
05/26/09 09:45 PM
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well I was thinking a stock crank 383 with stock rods and some pistons. With a set of worked over 906's. And than add a couple of 3rd gen cummins turbo's just as an experiment. 
That's exactly what I am doing, except that I am using a pair of T04E turbos. stock rods, crank, pistons, 915 heads with big valves, TM6, modified 600DP
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Re: turbo big blocks
[Re: tims69belvedere]
#327792
05/27/09 09:07 AM
05/27/09 09:07 AM
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Brookeville, Md
Mr.Yuck
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My brother and I have decided that a budget turbo big block would be sweet in my car. Anybody got turbo big blocks on here??? 
no such thing as a budget turbo....yeah you can buy the turbo pretty cheap but that's where it stops. Tons of fab work involved, not to mention the cutting up of the engine bay. Try a S/C much easier and 1/10th of the fab work.
On the good side, boost is great. No need for expensive port work, big bumpy cams, high stalls or tall gears.
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Re: turbo big blocks
[Re: TrxR]
#327794
05/27/09 10:52 AM
05/27/09 10:52 AM
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Brookeville, Md
Mr.Yuck
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Myself Id rather deal with more fab work and go turbo then go with a Super charger. Also depending on the car and size of turbo it can be done without hacking the car up. Also I am not a big fan of putting that pressure of the belt on the snout of the crank.
if you can do the fab work fine if you can't you are looking at big $$$$$$$.
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Re: turbo big blocks
[Re: Mr.Yuck]
#327795
05/27/09 11:53 AM
05/27/09 11:53 AM
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Yes, you have to do the fab and research work yourself to make it budgetable. But depending on what a guy will use for a long block, power-for-power a turbo setup $$ can be comparable to a hi-hp NA engine. NA engines have to spin higher to make the same power as a boosted engine, and RPM is where the $$$ is at. Low-boost engines need very little special prepwork on the engine.
Yes, a centrifugal supercharger is much easier, but they heat the intake charge more than a turbo's compressor does.
There is a guy on TurboMustangs that was running a 1/2-ton truck into the 12s with a stock/untouched 383 - he bypassed $4000+ worth of engine mods for that performance level.
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Re: turbo big blocks
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#327796
05/27/09 12:16 PM
05/27/09 12:16 PM
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Brookeville, Md
Mr.Yuck
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Yes, you have to do the fab and research work yourself to make it budgetable. But depending on what a guy will use for a long block, power-for-power a turbo setup $$ can be comparable to a hi-hp NA engine. NA engines have to spin higher to make the same power as a boosted engine, and RPM is where the $$$ is at. Low-boost engines need very little special prepwork on the engine.
Yes, a centrifugal supercharger is much easier, but they heat the intake charge more than a turbo's compressor does.
There is a guy on TurboMustangs that was running a 1/2-ton truck into the 12s with a stock/untouched 383 - he bypassed $4000+ worth of engine mods for that performance level.
this ran 12.0's from 12.90's on a good day w/ no other mods. Probably could have run 11's with some fine tuning. It was a fairly stock cast piston 440 w/ a summit 488 cam. I put the entire S/C togther including fuel system upgrades, bungs sensors and carb prep for around 2k. Could have been under 1800 but I had the tubes done by a local shop as I didn't want to butcher the welds.
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Re: turbo big blocks
[Re: Mr.Yuck]
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05/27/09 12:28 PM
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Yes, you have to do the fab and research work yourself to make it budgetable. But depending on what a guy will use for a long block, power-for-power a turbo setup $$ can be comparable to a hi-hp NA engine. NA engines have to spin higher to make the same power as a boosted engine, and RPM is where the $$$ is at. Low-boost engines need very little special prepwork on the engine.
Yes, a centrifugal supercharger is much easier, but they heat the intake charge more than a turbo's compressor does.
There is a guy on TurboMustangs that was running a 1/2-ton truck into the 12s with a stock/untouched 383 - he bypassed $4000+ worth of engine mods for that performance level.
this ran 12.0's from 12.90's on a good day w/ no other mods. Probably could have run 11's with some fine tuning. It was a fairly stock cast piston 440 w/ a summit 488 cam. I put the entire S/C togther including fuel system upgrades, bungs sensors and carb prep for around 2k. Could have been under 1800 but I had the tubes done by a local shop as I didn't want to butcher the welds.
sounds like alot of money to run 12.0s?!? If its all about the $ then squeeze it... my stock 400 with edelbrock heads and a hydraulic cam with a 225 shot strapped to it went 10.50s consistantley for years... on 91 octane no less!!!
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Re: turbo big blocks
[Re: BB70DUSTER]
#327799
05/27/09 12:47 PM
05/27/09 12:47 PM
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Brookeville, Md
Mr.Yuck
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Yes, you have to do the fab and research work yourself to make it budgetable. But depending on what a guy will use for a long block, power-for-power a turbo setup $$ can be comparable to a hi-hp NA engine. NA engines have to spin higher to make the same power as a boosted engine, and RPM is where the $$$ is at. Low-boost engines need very little special prepwork on the engine.
Yes, a centrifugal supercharger is much easier, but they heat the intake charge more than a turbo's compressor does.
There is a guy on TurboMustangs that was running a 1/2-ton truck into the 12s with a stock/untouched 383 - he bypassed $4000+ worth of engine mods for that performance level.
this ran 12.0's from 12.90's on a good day w/ no other mods. Probably could have run 11's with some fine tuning. It was a fairly stock cast piston 440 w/ a summit 488 cam. I put the entire S/C togther including fuel system upgrades, bungs sensors and carb prep for around 2k. Could have been under 1800 but I had the tubes done by a local shop as I didn't want to butcher the welds.
sounds like alot of money to run 12.0s?!? If its all about the $ then squeeze it... my stock 400 with edelbrock heads and a hydraulic cam with a 225 shot strapped to it went 10.50s consistantley for years... on 91 octane no less!!!
How long is it going to last hitting it w/ a 225 shot? what's it run w/o it? what did the NOS kit cost? what's it cost to fill it? it all adds up boost is FULL TIME it's ALWAYS available. SO not really I had maybe $3800 in the entire engine/trans w/ the S/C. Could have run 11's with some tuning. This was on 5.5lbs of boost and a little sumit 488 cam. I'll bet you had more in your engine. I did get the 8lb pulley on but sold it before I ran it. w/8psi I'd guess the car would have been around 11.60? drove to the track and home sometimes 50+ miles one way. I had 3.91's, if it had 3.73's probably would have been even better as the boost would come in quicker. and if i would have hit it w/ a 150 shot maybe a second faster. Oh yeah and in a 3850lb car at that
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