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NASCAR's ability to adapt will be crucial #3247295
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"NASCAR's ability to adapt will be crucial for its future success. The average age of NASCAR viewers has increased from 49 in 2006 to 58 in 2022. "

Deceased might be the goal,

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Re: NASCAR's ability to adapt will be crucial [Re: jcc] #3247301
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Dodge leaving was not good, attendance did drop, I didn't take as much interest after that, but did watch. Hard have watched it since the last few years. It seems to me like they've tried to make it like other venues, instead of leaving things alone. Now, if they turned it back into "stock" cars, with appropriate safety factors, I'd be watching again. At one time, even before Dodge was in, we'd fly home from Church and catch pre-race, race, post race and MRN's "Nascar Live" show on Mondays.

Younger folks just don't seem interested in this style racing. I could be wrong.


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Nascar died in the early 70's when they restricted engine displacements to 358 cubic inches.

Re: NASCAR's ability to adapt will be crucial [Re: jcc] #3247321
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I like to watch the short track races & the road rally courses. More about driver skill than aero & HP. Bring the hemi back; it is a v8 after all. Maybe Dodge will get back in the game. Daytona & Talladega are a 43 car demolition derby waiting to happen. I don't bother watching those tracks. I agree about engine displacement size. Get rid of restrictor plates so cars can pass on longer tracks. Run a factory front clip and figure out your aero from there. Unless I read the decal, I can't tell one manufacturer from another.

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Maybe it's me but I'm 57 and haven't watched any NASCAR race in years.

This move isn't interesting to me in the least:

https://www.nbcnews.com/science/sci...ype-ahead-chicago-street-race-rcna160382

Re: NASCAR's ability to adapt will be crucial [Re: moparmike1] #3247334
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I'm 43. Dodge leaving in 2012 was the main reason I stopped watching back then. I still watched the beginning of the 2013 season and I gradually lost interest until I would watch maybe a handful of races a year and then eventually none. I think I would have stopped watching by now even if Mopar was still in it though. I really don't like the points system and the mandatory cautions and heat races.

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I started watching regularly when Dodge came back in. At my peak, I was watching all or part of over 30 races a year, and I was recording the Daytona 500 because I usually had a conflict that weekend.
My watching started to decline in the late 2000s when it seemed like the name of the game was "Who's gonna win this week: Johnson, Truex or Kyle Busch?" I did catch the tail end of Dodge's last race, where Keselowski finally got them the championship they would have had in 2002 if Sterling Marlin hadn't gotten hurt and had to sit out the rest of the season.


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I record the races and fast forward to where the drivers get stupid and wreck. The only reason to watch because they do have some pretty wild mix ups.

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Originally Posted by stumpy
I record the races and fast forward to where the drivers get stupid and wreck. The only reason to watch because they do have some pretty wild mix ups.
LOL

Went to one in KC and couldn't get into 3-5 laps, wreck, caution, clean up REPEAT. Borng as he-- to me shruggy twocents

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Wait... NASCAR is still a thing?

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Nascar .. No Dodge = No Watch... I think Nascar underestimated how many Mopar / Dodge fans there were when they kissed Toyotas butt to get them in and did nothing to retain the Dodges


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Re: NASCAR's ability to adapt will be crucial [Re: jcc] #3247397
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I don't watch NASCAR religiously but I've been following since the early seventies, and watch races if I'm not too busy

It's just entertainment - people seem to love disparaging it for some reason (even the die-hard fans!)

As far as Dodge in NASCAR, couldn't care less - they abandoned the sport, not the other way around

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They had me for a moment but lost me again.

Too many other things in life competing for my attention, and all of them better and more enjoyable.


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I watch very little of it anymore, nothing more than a glorified IROC series. I did enjoy watching IROC, at least you knew what make the car was.

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Re: NASCAR's ability to adapt will be crucial [Re: moparx] #3247443
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I'm 43 years old. I stopped watching it when Toyota started racing. Like all forms of roundy round racing...too much politics.


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I didn't especially like it when Dodge pulled out, but I did watch pretty regularly until they started putting the middle of the season on to cable TV. We don't do cable TV. When you miss 6-8 weeks out of the middle of the year and you loose track of the points race, that pretty much kills any reason to follow them. Then there was the stupid thing they changed the point system to.
The final nail was when they went woke.

Between them and NHRA, they are speeding up the process of killing off all forms of auto racing, and I'm having less and less doubts that may be the goal.

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I quit watching when they "pussified" the event with rough driving penalties and tire cautions so the less prepared teams could get their setups right. The 3 car teams also bug me when the good driver on the team won't put a lap the bad driver on the team. The last full race I watched was the Bickyard when Jimmy Johnson was leading and good year brought a crap tire to the race. Well they let all the teams come in for a mandatory caution every 20 laps. Now when you let the 48 team in first they will pretty much leave first then lead almost the entire race which they did and Jimmy won from the pole.

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Originally Posted by fourgearsavoy
I quit watching when they "pussified" the event with rough driving penalties and tire cautions so the less prepared teams could get their setups right. The 3 car teams also bug me when the good driver on the team won't put a lap the bad driver on the team. The last full race I watched was the Bickyard when Jimmy Johnson was leading and good year brought a crap tire to the race. Well they let all the teams come in for a mandatory caution every 20 laps. Now when you let the 48 team in first they will pretty much leave first then lead almost the entire race which they did and Jimmy won from the pole.

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That Indy tire debacle race was worse than that. Some teams had cars that ran well for 15-20 laps. Others had a hard time going 12. They were throwing cautions right at the window, 10-12 laps, where the 48 fell of fast. The 99 was set up and could run more laps before the tire let go. The last segment of the race, less than 12 active race speed laps, coincidence. Not a fricken chance. If you know what you got and the tire letrs go in 13 laps you better be pitting before that, if you can go 15-20, then you have an advantage which is what racing should be about. More shenanigans and manipulation from the brass at Na$crap.

Nascrap is a chevy/gm show the last 40 years.

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Maybe they should invent a new motor sport by combining Nascar and demolition derby. Run what you brung with no restrictions but driver safety. Now that i might watch.

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