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$36k for a new 3.0 v6 diesel engine? #3233372
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Got a friend who’s 2018 RAM 1500 Ecodiesel died..presumably a spun bearing or rod problem. Dodge dealer says $36,000 for new engine. Is that even remotely close to reality???? I would have quessed $10k. No way……

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We have two laying out back with people looking down the barrel of iirc 26k + repair for engines. That would be #20 and #21 at the small dealer I work at. Also have two waiting for fuel systems for the exploded high psi pump and one we’ve been waiting for months on a melted intake. People that buy these get what’s coming to them sooner or later.

Re: $36k for a new 3.0 v6 diesel engine? [Re: Pacnorthcuda] #3233457
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Re: $36k for a new 3.0 v6 diesel engine? [Re: A12] #3233462
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Well, I suppose 24k for a new crate means a dealer throwing out a $36k number for a new installed engine is believable, but likely on the high side. I had no idea a relatively common work truck motor could run that high. Seems insane to me. I would think a used engine installed by a private mechanic might be more like 12-15k, but no warrantee. A rock and a hard place.
Guys pay a premium for the long term durability of diesels, when one craps out at 40,000 miles all that goes out the window.

Re: $36k for a new 3.0 v6 diesel engine? [Re: Pacnorthcuda] #3233470
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Originally Posted by Pacnorthcuda
Well, I suppose 24k for a new crate means a dealer throwing out a $36k number for a new installed engine is believable, but likely on the high side. I had no idea a relatively common work truck motor could run that high. Seems insane to me. I would think a used engine installed by a private mechanic might be more like 12-15k, but no warrantee. A rock and a hard place.
Guys pay a premium for the long term durability of diesels, when one craps out at 40,000 miles all that goes out the window.


This jogged a memory cell or two for me, lol.

Last oil change on the company truck the oil place wanted to replace the air filter, which I agreed with. 50k miles in the 12 months since I got it, new. A lot of it out in the oil patch on dirt. Lease company said "no, not due for replacement for 36 more MONTHS". At that rate I will have 200k miles on the truck before they will sign off on a new air filter.

Really?

As I told the shop, an air filter is cheaper than an engine.

Re: $36k for a new 3.0 v6 diesel engine? [Re: Sniper] #3233488
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Here’s a real question. What would it cost to just swap in a 5.7 or 6.4? Less than $36,000 probably. Junkyard fuel system and stand alone computer.


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Re: $36k for a new 3.0 v6 diesel engine? [Re: FurryStump] #3233598
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Originally Posted by FurryStump
Here’s a real question. What would it cost to just swap in a 5.7 or 6.4? Less than $36,000 probably. Junkyard fuel system and stand alone computer.


Unless you have to pass a smog inspection.

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I have seen new OEM crate engines advertised privately here for around $11k. No idea if they were a scam or not but low mile used were that much too. shruggy

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Re: $36k for a new 3.0 v6 diesel engine? [Re: Twostick] #3233619
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Originally Posted by Twostick
I have seen new OEM crate engines advertised privately here for around $11k. No idea if they were a scam or not but low mile used were that much too. shruggy

Kevin


If the OEM motor puked at 40,000, what are the chances the next "low mileage" replacement is going to fair any better? It sounds like these motors are not surviving well in the real world. Imagine what its going to be like finding a good one of these motors in another 10 years.

Re: $36k for a new 3.0 v6 diesel engine? [Re: Pacnorthcuda] #3233628
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Wow, so no warranty left even at 40K miles? Guess a person needs to buy an extended warranty with these trucks. I've owned my 2004 Dodge Ram for 20 years no with mostly just routine maintenance costs. I did recently have to replace the fan on the AC system and that was $1000 for a little electric fan, but not too bad in the big picture. Had I known exactly what the problem was I most likely could've found one in a wrecking yard.

Re: $36k for a new 3.0 v6 diesel engine? [Re: AndyF] #3233674
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I was thinking of a new truck soon(current truck is 11 yrs old) but none of the new stuff floats my boat and most of them seem problematic and spendy to fix(not just Ram...all of them) I certainly won't be looking at anything with these small diesels.....GM has had their share of issues also. I will likely keep my current truck....I like it and it has been trouble free since new.

Re: $36k for a new 3.0 v6 diesel engine? [Re: poorboy] #3233679
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Originally Posted by poorboy
Originally Posted by Twostick
I have seen new OEM crate engines advertised privately here for around $11k. No idea if they were a scam or not but low mile used were that much too. shruggy

Kevin


If the OEM motor puked at 40,000, what are the chances the next "low mileage" replacement is going to fair any better? It sounds like these motors are not surviving well in the real world. Imagine what its going to be like finding a good one of these motors in another 10 years.


10??? I'm thinking in ten years, the eco-diesel will be a bad memory. Probably replaced by the next "brainiac" idea to save fuel.

Re: $36k for a new 3.0 v6 diesel engine? [Re: moparmike1] #3233689
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"I'm thinking in ten years, the eco-diesel will be a bad memory. Probably replaced by the next "brainiac" idea to save fuel."




wooden cloths pins on the fuel line works, as well as that propeller thing that spins inside your air intake. whistling biggrin
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Re: $36k for a new 3.0 v6 diesel engine? [Re: Twostick] #3233729
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Originally Posted by Twostick
I have seen new OEM crate engines advertised privately here for around $11k. No idea if they were a scam or not but low mile used were that much too. shruggy

Kevin


Isn't it just a tail pipe check?
How would they know what motor is in the truck, or care?

Re: $36k for a new 3.0 v6 diesel engine? [Re: BDW] #3233738
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Many states do an underhood inspection and an under vehicle inspection. Weather or not the inspections know anything is a grab bag.

I have a 1st gen Cummins. For 36 K, I could restore the truck AND build one heck of an engine.


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Originally Posted by BDW
Originally Posted by Twostick
I have seen new OEM crate engines advertised privately here for around $11k. No idea if they were a scam or not but low mile used were that much too. shruggy

Kevin


Isn't it just a tail pipe check?
How would they know what motor is in the truck, or care?


Here in Ohio E-Check plugs into the OBD and runs the diagnostic through it. VIN (and OBD) verifies the engine and the emission output and issues, can't fool it.

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Originally Posted by A12
Originally Posted by BDW
Originally Posted by Twostick
I have seen new OEM crate engines advertised privately here for around $11k. No idea if they were a scam or not but low mile used were that much too. shruggy

Kevin


Isn't it just a tail pipe check?
How would they know what motor is in the truck, or care?


Here in Ohio E-Check plugs into the OBD and runs the diagnostic through it. VIN (and OBD) verifies the engine and the emission output and issues, can't fool it.



MOST STATES emission zone inspections do this.
the test reads 10 test readiness monitors. you have to have 9 out of 10 in compliance.
a LOT if not all test zones you can fail by having a NON 50 state approved tune in your car even if all 10 monitors transmit ok
i know Wisconsin has this.

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I traded my 2014 ecodiesel off in November. 63,000 miles. It did me good but after the last high pressure fuel pump recall with no real fix and the crank sensor tone wheel failure. (bring it in and we will program it to run off the cam sensor). Only offered me 17k trade in. Figured I was living on borrowed time so I took it.

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watched a vid recently. 5.0 cummins in nissan spun a few bearings ...quote for long block from nissan $23k..not sure if price is long block only or motor + install.

Re: $36k for a new 3.0 v6 diesel engine? [Re: Mr T2U] #3233824
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Originally Posted by Mr T2U
Originally Posted by A12
Originally Posted by BDW
Originally Posted by Twostick
I have seen new OEM crate engines advertised privately here for around $11k. No idea if they were a scam or not but low mile used were that much too. shruggy

Kevin


Isn't it just a tail pipe check?
How would they know what motor is in the truck, or care?


Here in Ohio E-Check plugs into the OBD and runs the diagnostic through it. VIN (and OBD) verifies the engine and the emission output and issues, can't fool it.



MOST STATES emission zone inspections do this.
the test reads 10 test readiness monitors. you have to have 9 out of 10 in compliance.
a LOT if not all test zones you can fail by having a NON 50 state approved tune in your car even if all 10 monitors transmit ok
i know Wisconsin has this.


Yep. I have a tune for my F150 5.0. It doesn't touch any emissions systems or monitors but I still put the stock tune back in at emissions test time

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