Re: Shock and leaf spring recommendation for my 69 GTS
[Re: tboomer]
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02/26/24 09:41 AM
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skicker
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I run SS springs I get from Mancini on my 69 Dart...
I also have leaf spring sliders in the rear...
The front perches are flipped upside down (raising the hole in the body) so the arch doesn't make it set too high...
The 72 Duster...65 Coronet and 70 Satellite also have them...no issues ever...
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Re: Shock and leaf spring recommendation for my 69 GTS
[Re: skicker]
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02/26/24 10:56 AM
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I run SS springs I get from Mancini on my 69 Dart...
I also have leaf spring sliders in the rear...
The front perches are flipped upside down (raising the hole in the body) so the arch doesn't make it set too high...
The 72 Duster...65 Coronet and 70 Satellite also have them...no issues ever... Can you post a picture of the sliders installed in the car ?
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Re: Shock and leaf spring recommendation for my 69 GTS
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02/26/24 01:19 PM
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Ted -
I'm surprised at how low Skicker's Dart sits on SS springs - looks stock. I was thinking the same thing.
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Re: Shock and leaf spring recommendation for my 69 GTS
[Re: JohnRR]
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02/26/24 08:04 PM
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skicker
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Can you post a picture of the sliders installed in the car ?
Evidently I don't have any of them in the 69... These are pictures from the install in the 72 Duster... The 69 Dart was done 1st and then the Duster was done the same way a few years later... Last picture is of the spring hanger flipped upside down...
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Re: Shock and leaf spring recommendation for my 69 GTS
[Re: skicker]
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02/26/24 08:11 PM
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This is the pic showing how much the front hanger was moved rearward...
This was done to run the 30" tall tires without cutting the front of the 1/4 panels...
The rear in the Duster is a 65 B body rear with a 9.5" wide rear wheel that has 5.5" of back space...
These wheels and tires are off of my 70 Satellite...Tires are 275/60/17's and measure right at 30" tall...
They were robbed from my car as you can see in the background of the 3rd pic...
They were used for mockup so that if he ever wanted a 9.00 x 30.0 slick he could run one...
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Re: Shock and leaf spring recommendation for my 69 GTS
[Re: tboomer]
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02/26/24 09:01 PM
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no track time at all then there is no need for SS springs.. call espo ( https://www.springsnthings.com/ ) and get the height ya want. eaton senns a damn nice spring beyt they are more expensive.
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Re: Shock and leaf spring recommendation for my 69 GTS
[Re: TJP]
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02/28/24 05:06 AM
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My '69 Barracuda 340 developed rear wheel hop on hard acceleration only a few years from new. Maybe the rear was sagging also, but I didn't measure it. Had the springs re-arched, and the shop also added one more long leaf for a total of 7 each side. This fixed the wheel hop, and the rear sat maybe 1" higher than spec, which I liked.
Today, 50 years later, the springs are doing fine and still sitting about 1" high. I suspect that the extra leaves by themselves is mostly what fixed the problem, and that the re-arching didn't help that much.
My recommendation for sagging rear springs is to get a pair of used 2 1/2" wide leaves slightly shorter than the spring eye to spring eye distance, thickness the same or slightly thicker, redrill the center hole as necessary with a carbide drill, re-assemble with new pure, non-magnetic zinc interleaves (don't buy fake, magnetic galvanized steel interleaves) and new clamps, and see if the problem is fixed. If so, the cost of re-arching is saved. If not, then get the assemblies re-arched along with the extra leaves.
But be sure the re-arching shop doesn't throw away your pure zinc interleaves like my shop did.
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Re: Shock and leaf spring recommendation for my 69 GTS
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02/28/24 05:14 AM
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Restored springs after sandblast, colored with dilute gun blue, since full strength is too black, and coated with RPM wax. Note the second leaf down is the additional leaf, making a total of 7. In this case, the extra leaf was not drilled on the ends for the plastic sliders, but should have been.
Also note new pure zinc interleaves at the center bolt, as original.
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Re: Shock and leaf spring recommendation for my 69 GTS
[Re: kentj340]
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02/28/24 06:33 AM
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For what it's worth I had a set of springs De Arched in Sept 2023. The cost was $170 to take 5" out of my 1995 Dakota leaf springs. Maybe the cost is similar to Re Arch.
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Re: Shock and leaf spring recommendation for my 69 GTS
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02/28/24 10:13 AM
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Usually SS springs jack the car up way high. I used Mancini Extra Heavy Duty springs in my Dart. Stock hangers. Offset shackle. Calvert adjustable rear shocks. Calvert 90/10 shocks up front. Rides nice. I think sits nice. Launches straight and hooks up at track.
Last edited by StrkrDart69; 02/28/24 04:03 PM.
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Re: Shock and leaf spring recommendation for my 69 GTS
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02/28/24 10:08 PM
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