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Brake pad recommendation #3205844 01/18/24 11:18 AM 01/18/24 11:18 AM
Joined: May 2016 Posts: 630 Ct W Wirenut OP mopar
Wirenut OP mopar W Joined: May 2016 Posts: 630 Ct	Hi all 65 b body with 11” a body disc set up . Converted this to discs many years ago following Ebergs discotech article. Great improvement no issues. Last season put a new set of brake pads on it. Didn’t really need it but had it apart for wheel bearings and I had the pads on the shelf for many years so put them on. Everything seamed ok , but, one day wasn’t paying attention and rolled through a stop sign . The car stopped but not very quickly. Previously this car would stop on the proverbial Dime. I’m thinking the pads are either too old or maybe not the right type ? That said I don’t remember what they are other than parts store maybe semi metallics ? Anyone have anything they like?

Re: Brake pad recommendation [Re: Wirenut] #3205927 01/18/24 03:32 PM 01/18/24 03:32 PM
Joined: Sep 2003 Posts: 19,388 north of coder moparx "Butt Crack Bob"
moparx "Butt Crack Bob" Joined: Sep 2003 Posts: 19,388 north of coder	on the edge of the pads there should be a letter code. this code tells what the pads characteristics are, and how the pads will react under braking situations. did you bed the pads in ? believe it or not, that bedding process has a lot to do with brake performance, even with stock type/parts store replacements.

Re: Brake pad recommendation [Re: moparx] #3206083 01/19/24 02:16 AM 01/19/24 02:16 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 4,144 Canada -- Posts: 4034 -Registe... 5 5thAve Doesn't care what this says anyway
5thAve Doesn't care what this says anyway 5 Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 4,144 Canada -- Posts: 4034 -Registe...	I've always used the cheapest ones from a parts store that I could get. One of my bigger cars squeals even with decent pads so it has ceramic ones. The only time I've ever had a problem stopping is when there's contamination on them.

Re: Brake pad recommendation [Re: moparx] #3206111 01/19/24 09:01 AM 01/19/24 09:01 AM
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Wirenut OP mopar W Joined: May 2016 Posts: 630 Ct	Originally Posted by moparx on the edge of the pads there should be a letter code. this code tells what the pads characteristics are, and how the pads will react under braking situations. did you bed the pads in ? believe it or not, that bedding process has a lot to do with brake performance, even with stock type/parts store replacements. Was not aware of any of this ! Is there a chart to figure out what the letter code means? Thanks

Re: Brake pad recommendation [Re: 5thAve] #3206112 01/19/24 09:03 AM 01/19/24 09:03 AM
Joined: May 2016 Posts: 630 Ct W Wirenut OP mopar
Wirenut OP mopar W Joined: May 2016 Posts: 630 Ct	Originally Posted by 5thAve I've always used the cheapest ones from a parts store that I could get. One of my bigger cars squeals even with decent pads so it has ceramic ones. The only time I've ever had a problem stopping is when there's contamination on them. Pretty much what I have always done , except recently when buying at the az or similar they will ask what grade , and I usually go in the middle. Thanks

Re: Brake pad recommendation [Re: Wirenut] #3206121 01/19/24 09:29 AM 01/19/24 09:29 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 21,071 Niles , Ohio T therocks oh wait.but hey.lets see.oh yeah.
therocks oh wait.but hey.lets see.oh yeah. T Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 21,071 Niles , Ohio	My 65 I bought ceramic pads from Advanced years ago.They work plain and simple.No dust on my mags either.Even at 120 at the strip they stop and dont fade.IIRC they were bendix. Chrysler Firepower

Re: Brake pad recommendation [Re: therocks] #3206152 01/19/24 11:07 AM 01/19/24 11:07 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 20,762 A collage of whims topside Too Many Posts
topside Too Many Posts Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 20,762 A collage of whims	I've noticed that some pads differ in feel at their initial bite. Also, if the brake fluid has been overheated, or the system needs bleeding, the initial bite and/or overall performance degrades. Generally the feel is either a "soft pedal" or generally less braking power. EBC pads were a go-to for a long time, but I haven't looked into performance pads in some time.

Re: Brake pad recommendation [Re: topside] #3206158 01/19/24 11:34 AM 01/19/24 11:34 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 21,505 N.E. OHIO, USA A12 Too Many Posts
A12 Too Many Posts Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 21,505 N.E. OHIO, USA	My friend says to always buy the pads with the least warranty. Feels that to make them last longer they put too much metallic into the pad material and that minimizes the initial braking and will most likely squeal down the road. Hey it could be true.

Re: Brake pad recommendation [Re: A12] #3206162 01/19/24 11:43 AM 01/19/24 11:43 AM
Joined: May 2019 Posts: 6,240 nowhere S Sniper master
Sniper master S Joined: May 2019 Posts: 6,240 nowhere	Originally Posted by A12 My friend says to always buy the pads with the least warranty. Feels that to make them last longer they put too much metallic into the pad material and that minimizes the initial braking and will most likely squeal down the road. Hey it could be true. Those would be organic pads, lol. They under perform semi-metallic pads in regards to braking performance. They are quieter and they might not chew up rotors as much, but they don't stop as well. One issue with modern, undersized, brakes is that if you go from OEM semi metallic to organics you will really notice the difference.

Re: Brake pad recommendation [Re: Sniper] #3206173 01/19/24 12:40 PM 01/19/24 12:40 PM
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340SIX Doc Flappergas's Evil Twin Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 28,596 Shopping @ HoBo Fright	https://www.summitracing.com/parts/agb-pg-d84m#overview Had great results with the Hybrid E3 pads. Stopped well no worn rotors like heavy semi metallic and were quite. Can be had fast from Amazon(shows free ship) and Rockauto shows cheap priced as well. Last edited by 340SIX; 01/19/24 01:14 PM. [img]https://i234.photobucket.com/albums/ee87/fast340six/sig%20pics/2840886-340SIX-1.jpg[/img] VP of the MPM in New Orleans 73 Dart Sport 340/ 70 challenger vert. That may still get built, If I live long enough

Re: Brake pad recommendation [Re: Wirenut] #3206230 01/19/24 03:02 PM 01/19/24 03:02 PM
Joined: Sep 2003 Posts: 19,388 north of coder moparx "Butt Crack Bob"
moparx "Butt Crack Bob" Joined: Sep 2003 Posts: 19,388 north of coder	Originally Posted by Wirenut Originally Posted by moparx on the edge of the pads there should be a letter code. this code tells what the pads characteristics are, and how the pads will react under braking situations. did you bed the pads in ? believe it or not, that bedding process has a lot to do with brake performance, even with stock type/parts store replacements. Was not aware of any of this ! Is there a chart to figure out what the letter code means? Thanks yes there is. https://www.motortrend.com/how-to/disc-brake-pad-friction-codes-explained/ https://safebraking.com/decrypting-brake-pad-edge-codes/ https://www.brakeandfrontend.com/ a sampling of links out there explaining this. hope you [as well as others] find this helpful.

Re: Brake pad recommendation [Re: Wirenut] #3206249 01/19/24 03:49 PM 01/19/24 03:49 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 75,004 U.S.S.A. JohnRR I Win
JohnRR I Win Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 75,004 U.S.S.A.	Originally Posted by Wirenut Hi all 65 b body with 11” a body disc set up . Converted this to discs many years ago following Ebergs discotech article. Great improvement no issues. Last season put a new set of brake pads on it. Didn’t really need it but had it apart for wheel bearings and I had the pads on the shelf for many years so put them on. Everything seamed ok , but, one day wasn’t paying attention and rolled through a stop sign . The car stopped but not very quickly. Previously this car would stop on the proverbial Dime. I’m thinking the pads are either too old or maybe not the right type ? That said I don’t remember what they are other than parts store maybe semi metallics ? Anyone have anything they like? What did you do to the rotors before swapping pads ? running up my post count some more .

Re: Brake pad recommendation [Re: JohnRR] #3206469 01/20/24 12:11 PM 01/20/24 12:11 PM
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Wirenut OP mopar W Joined: May 2016 Posts: 630 Ct	Originally Posted by JohnRR Originally Posted by Wirenut Hi all 65 b body with 11” a body disc set up . Converted this to discs many years ago following Ebergs discotech article. Great improvement no issues. Last season put a new set of brake pads on it. Didn’t really need it but had it apart for wheel bearings and I had the pads on the shelf for many years so put them on. Everything seamed ok , but, one day wasn’t paying attention and rolled through a stop sign . The car stopped but not very quickly. Previously this car would stop on the proverbial Dime. I’m thinking the pads are either too old or maybe not the right type ? That said I don’t remember what they are other than parts store maybe semi metallics ? Anyone have anything they like? What did you do to the rotors before swapping pads ? Nothing. They didn’t look like they ever got hot and weren’t glazed. Nobody around here cuts anymore. Was thinking about hitting them with. DA with 80 on it

Re: Brake pad recommendation [Re: Wirenut] #3206555 01/20/24 04:06 PM 01/20/24 04:06 PM
Joined: Sep 2003 Posts: 19,388 north of coder moparx "Butt Crack Bob"
moparx "Butt Crack Bob" Joined: Sep 2003 Posts: 19,388 north of coder	even if they looked good, there will be pad material transferred to the rotor, and the previous material may be playing havoc with the material of the new pads, thus brake performance will suffer. the 80 grit on a da would be a good first step. you have nothing to loose by trying that. just don't dig any divots in the surfaces doing that. 80 grit can cut faster than one thinks, and iron rotors aren't that tough to start with, material removal wise.

Re: Brake pad recommendation [Re: moparx] #3206667 01/20/24 09:30 PM 01/20/24 09:30 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 20,539 Eagle, Idaho Neil The Doctor is in.
Neil The Doctor is in. Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 20,539 Eagle, Idaho	Dumb question, but did you handle the rotors with dirty hands while doing the bearings? I have seen people do brake work in a hurry, and then forget to make sure the contact surfaces are 100% free of oily handprints. The pads I would have given a quick spray with brake cleaner also in case they had some contamination on them. Some of the O'reilly stores here still do rotor and drum surfacing also. Last edited by Neil; 01/20/24 09:34 PM.

Re: Brake pad recommendation [Re: moparx] #3206682 01/20/24 11:18 PM 01/20/24 11:18 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 15,347 Omaha Ne T TJP I Live Here
TJP I Live Here T Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 15,347 Omaha Ne	Originally Posted by moparx even if they looked good, there will be pad material transferred to the rotor, and the previous material may be playing havoc with the material of the new pads, thus brake performance will suffer. the 80 grit on a da would be a good first step. you have nothing to loose by trying that. just don't dig any divots in the surfaces doing that. 80 grit can cut faster than one thinks, and iron rotors aren't that tough to start with, material removal wise. Scothbrite discs work well : www.tandmautomotive-omaha.com

Re: Brake pad recommendation [Re: TJP] #3206870 01/21/24 02:44 PM 01/21/24 02:44 PM
Joined: Sep 2003 Posts: 19,388 north of coder moparx "Butt Crack Bob"
moparx "Butt Crack Bob" Joined: Sep 2003 Posts: 19,388 north of coder	even scotchbrite discs can dig divots into cast iron. i have done it ! not sure if it was with a red or brown one. i'm thinking the brown one is the coarsest grade.

Re: Brake pad recommendation [Re: Wirenut] #3206902 01/21/24 04:16 PM 01/21/24 04:16 PM
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ThermoQuad top fuel T Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 2,466 Answering the call of the wild	Mopar NOS cop car brake pads, there are 2 pns - pin/slider, great pads, road course tested! Better pads would be carbon metallic or something better. Call Rochester Clutch and Brake, The owner speaks mopar and more. Be sure the wheel bearings are adjusted/set properly, most are not. 120-130 inch ponds of torque on the nut after seating the bearings

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