Pearl Harbour . . . always remember.

For me, my 1974 Duster360, had a build date of 12/7/73 !! . . .

Sad indeed, saw nothing on television except 1 very short news segment.
had an ex marine history teacher back in the mid 70's who was always saying " apathy apathy apathy you people will never be ready when china comes over the hill".
may turn out to be a prophetic statement.. learn from history or repeat it.

I suspect our nations historical declining personal knowledge reservoir will be found to be directly related to the declining reading of books.
That may not prove causation itself here, but IMO it's a great indicator.
Maybe even worse is the utter lack of desire to learn anything that helps to reduce the odds of repeating history.
Thats plainly evident by how few simply ask any questions. Nobody can ever know enough history.
I have no clue how to fix that mindset.

I am 42 and teach collision repair at a high school Vo-Tech. We have 7 sending schools that supply us with students. I asked them yesterday if they knew what significance the 7th was in history and also if their teachers at the home schools mentioned today. A few students (say 7 out of 50) knew what Pearl Harbor Day was. None of their teachers even mentioned the historical significance. So, I decided that we would talk about the subject in our class setting yesterday.

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You should also do the Vietnam and Korean war memorials

When i was in high school the one thing that I actually was interested in learning about was Vietnam. But that never happened because the books we had where so old and it didn't happen yet. This was in the early 80's! How pathetic is this that the schools can't teach the students about important times in history. Instead they drilled us about the war of 1812. Not that that shouldn't be taught but i think there are more important events in history that should be. I wonder what they are actually teaching the kids today? How to look it up on Google? In math class calculators where banned except for a few times when they where needed. With all the kids today having smart phones are they banned from bringing them into class?

It seems the most recent history often gets the most attention, I understand that. But those who are not willing to blindly accept everything simply at face value, will quickly learn with much recent history, the facts are still evolving, like in Vietnam, the Gulf of Tonkin incident that tiggered US military involvement was far from what it was originally purported to be, and more important in history, much of what happens is based on and related to the prior history of an event. A good example of that is when trying to sort out the current long running Mideast mess is it's best to first research and understand the Sykes-Picot agreement. It never ends. and books are the best source to gain an understanding of history, which seems to be a lost art and cause lately, and sadly.

I've noticed that as time goes on and the WWII vets pass away, that stuff like this tends to get ignored by the media.

I recall every Dec. 7 there used to be at least a news story about it, but I didn't see much this year. I would always tune into the American news channels to watch the coverage as a remembrance.

Locally, there was a huge explosion on Dec. 6, 1917 caused by a WWI munitions ship colliding with another ship in the harbour. Many people died and many more were severely injured and a good chunk of the city was wiped out. My Grandmother survived and used to tell me stories when I was a child. The local news used to have a story every Dec. 6, but for the past few years, nothing. Almost like it never happened.

Meanwhile all the modern woke stuff gets covered 'till I want to barf... but that's not a discussion for this forum... lol.

Agreed and SAD
How to be self entitled and narcissistic
Doubtful We weren't even allowed to use calculators in college. Reminds me of an Algebra teacher that always gave handwritten homework to solve. At the next class he would ask who solved problem # 1? I f more than one hand went up he would ask each for their solution and write it out on the board. None were the same. He would then say, YOU'RE ALL WRONG as there is no solution. This would repeat a few times but some had solutions.
It was his way of getting the student's to read and re read the chapters trying to find the solution. Didn't take me long to figure him out. But when the final was taken the scores spoke loudly of his methods

When I was a freshman in High School I was blessed to have an amazingly good chemistry teacher.
At his own personal expense he had made a special edition “circular slide rule” made to fit in a shirt pocket. The back side had a periodic table of the elements, and it had a slide out page of numerical scientific constants, and chemistry “rules of thumb.”

He was always calm. He promised all of his students that
“even though Chemistry is challenging, step by step we all are going to pull through this together get a 3 or better on the AP Chemistry Exam.”

Year after year he delivered on this promise.

Very few around today like that.

Super supportive and non-threatening, but he had fought as a Marine in the Pacific in WW-II

Like it or not, time passes. Generations pass. It's not narcissism or "kids these days". It's just time passing.

When I was a kid there were millions and millions of WW2 vets around and hundreds of millions or more who lived through it. Now there are hardly any left with first-hand memories of the actutal event.

How many of you guys commemorate the anniversary of the Battle of Gettysburg or Antietam? Those losses dwarf the losses at Pearl Harbor, but I'm sure none of you could name the date without Googling it.

Or Saratoga and Yorktown?

No, neither do I. But I'm sure for the generations who lived through it--these events were a fresh and painful and important memory.

i understand your point I believe, but that mainly is a comparison of lives lost rather lessons learned that are applicable today, and IMO the lessons from Peral are or should be much more significant.

Benihana is now owned by TPG Inc., previously known as Texas Pacific Group and TPG Capital, which is an American private equity firm based in Fort Worth, Texas.

Benihana has 5,000 employees.

The most common ethnicity at Benihana is White (52%).

23% of Benihana employees are Hispanic or Latino.

11% of Benihana employees are Asian.(I'm guessing mostly Filipino and Chinese)

(I never go there - overpriced, mediocre food)

I know I'm a dying breed but I think about those sort of things all the time. When I was kid my dad always told me our family is deeply rooted in this country. How rooted? 2 great grandfathers and great uncle at Valley Forge, dozens of family in the Civil War, a great uncle buried at Gettysburg. Service all the way up to now.. A grandson just did 4 years in the MARINES. IMO, more Americans need to start giving back so they have an appreciation for the sacrifices.

I would agree, but maybe that's due to being a boomer. My grandfather fought in WWI. My father and many relatives in WWII. Some in Korea which gets little acknowledgement and many friends Vietnam.
My interest has always been more towards WWII as it seemed I could relate to it more and maybe because we were attacked.
I escaped the draft as Nixon abolished it and both of my brothers had physical issues that kept them from serving.
I sometimes fantasize about the leaders sitting down and working out the differences but sometimes wonder if there isn't more to it than we are aware of
A big thank you to all that served 👏👏💛

sample quote

Repeated throughout history, technology has enabled battlefield surprises that must be heeded.
The Pearl Harbor attack was enabled by the then-unconventional use of aircraft carriers and their long-range aircraft to strike without detection.

The modern version of such a strike would come not from aircraft carriers,
but from cyber, ballistic and cruise missiles launched from submarines off our coast or missiles launched from mainland.
Unlike 1941, the homeland is no longer beyond the reach of our principal foe.
...snip...

In short, to avert war the nation must begin winning in the great game for strategic position,
while investing and delivering on a viable military and industry able to wage a long war.
Without this, a modern Pearl Harbor and a subsequent long war occurring is only a matter of time.

end quote

https://www.heritage.org/asia/commentary/would-china-dare-launch-second-pearl-harbor-america-0

^^^ Agree; but of critical importance, enemies and potential enemies must fear poking the bear enough that they don't test it.
Activities of the last several years have borne that out, not to put too fine a point on it...

This pretty much says it all LINKY