Re: Sad day today, December 7th
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I suspect our nations historical declining personal knowledge reservoir will be found to be directly related to the declining reading of books. That may not prove causation itself here, but IMO it's a great indicator. Maybe even worse is the utter lack of desire to learn anything that helps to reduce the odds of repeating history. Thats plainly evident by how few simply ask any questions. Nobody can ever know enough history. I have no clue how to fix that mindset.
Reality check, that half the population is smarter then 50% of the people and it's a constantly contested fact.
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Re: Sad day today, December 7th
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12/08/23 11:16 PM
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NEVER FORGET !.......................yet, that is exactly what is happening................. 😢😢😢
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Re: Sad day today, December 7th
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12/09/23 02:44 PM
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It seems the most recent history often gets the most attention, I understand that. But those who are not willing to blindly accept everything simply at face value, will quickly learn with much recent history, the facts are still evolving, like in Vietnam, the Gulf of Tonkin incident that tiggered US military involvement was far from what it was originally purported to be, and more important in history, much of what happens is based on and related to the prior history of an event. A good example of that is when trying to sort out the current long running Mideast mess is it's best to first research and understand the Sykes-Picot agreement. It never ends. and books are the best source to gain an understanding of history, which seems to be a lost art and cause lately, and sadly.
Reality check, that half the population is smarter then 50% of the people and it's a constantly contested fact.
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Re: Sad day today, December 7th
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12/12/23 09:29 AM
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Like it or not, time passes. Generations pass. It's not narcissism or "kids these days". It's just time passing.
When I was a kid there were millions and millions of WW2 vets around and hundreds of millions or more who lived through it. Now there are hardly any left with first-hand memories of the actutal event.
How many of you guys commemorate the anniversary of the Battle of Gettysburg or Antietam? Those losses dwarf the losses at Pearl Harbor, but I'm sure none of you could name the date without Googling it.
Or Saratoga and Yorktown?
No, neither do I. But I'm sure for the generations who lived through it--these events were a fresh and painful and important memory.
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Re: Sad day today, December 7th
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12/12/23 12:58 PM
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i understand your point I believe, but that mainly is a comparison of lives lost rather lessons learned that are applicable today, and IMO the lessons from Peral are or should be much more significant.
Reality check, that half the population is smarter then 50% of the people and it's a constantly contested fact.
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Re: Sad day today, December 7th
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12/12/23 01:09 PM
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I wonder how busy Benihana was today. Benihana is now owned by TPG Inc., previously known as Texas Pacific Group and TPG Capital, which is an American private equity firm based in Fort Worth, Texas. Benihana has 5,000 employees. The most common ethnicity at Benihana is White (52%). 23% of Benihana employees are Hispanic or Latino. 11% of Benihana employees are Asian.(I'm guessing mostly Filipino and Chinese) (I never go there - overpriced, mediocre food)
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Re: Sad day today, December 7th
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12/12/23 02:52 PM
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Like it or not, time passes. Generations pass. It's not narcissism or "kids these days". It's just time passing.
When I was a kid there were millions and millions of WW2 vets around and hundreds of millions or more who lived through it. Now there are hardly any left with first-hand memories of the actutal event.
How many of you guys commemorate the anniversary of the Battle of Gettysburg or Antietam? Those losses dwarf the losses at Pearl Harbor, but I'm sure none of you could name the date without Googling it.
Or Saratoga and Yorktown?
No, neither do I. But I'm sure for the generations who lived through it--these events were a fresh and painful and important memory.
I know I'm a dying breed but I think about those sort of things all the time. When I was kid my dad always told me our family is deeply rooted in this country. How rooted? 2 great grandfathers and great uncle at Valley Forge, dozens of family in the Civil War, a great uncle buried at Gettysburg. Service all the way up to now.. A grandson just did 4 years in the MARINES. IMO, more Americans need to start giving back so they have an appreciation for the sacrifices.
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Re: Sad day today, December 7th
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12/12/23 03:02 PM
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i understand your point I believe, but that mainly is a comparison of lives lost rather lessons learned that are applicable today, and IMO the lessons from Peral are or should be much more significant. I would agree, but maybe that's due to being a boomer. My grandfather fought in WWI. My father and many relatives in WWII. Some in Korea which gets little acknowledgement and many friends Vietnam. My interest has always been more towards WWII as it seemed I could relate to it more and maybe because we were attacked. I escaped the draft as Nixon abolished it and both of my brothers had physical issues that kept them from serving. I sometimes fantasize about the leaders sitting down and working out the differences but sometimes wonder if there isn't more to it than we are aware of A big thank you to all that served 👏👏💛
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Re: Sad day today, December 7th
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sample quote Repeated throughout history, technology has enabled battlefield surprises that must be heeded. The Pearl Harbor attack was enabled by the then-unconventional use of aircraft carriers and their long-range aircraft to strike without detection. The modern version of such a strike would come not from aircraft carriers, but from cyber, ballistic and cruise missiles launched from submarines off our coast or missiles launched from mainland. Unlike 1941, the homeland is no longer beyond the reach of our principal foe. ...snip... In short, to avert war the nation must begin winning in the great game for strategic position, while investing and delivering on a viable military and industry able to wage a long war. Without this, a modern Pearl Harbor and a subsequent long war occurring is only a matter of time. end quote https://www.heritage.org/asia/commentary/would-china-dare-launch-second-pearl-harbor-america-0
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