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Sad day today, December 7th #3195940
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In all the years December 7th has come and gone for some reason this one has made me sad to the point of tears. I think about what happened on this date in 1941 and how it changed everything and the direction of lives.

Re: Sad day today, December 7th [Re: 52savoy] #3195942
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Thank you for posting this. I had not recalled the date as being today as much as I used to. Complacency is a bad thing.


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Re: Sad day today, December 7th [Re: 52savoy] #3195943
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I suppose many of you don't understand the emotion because of being much younger but to us baby boomers we relived it with our parents.

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I did not know there were "Young" people on moparts.


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Re: Sad day today, December 7th [Re: Mr PotatoHead] #3195959
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Originally Posted by Mr PotatoHead
I did not know there were "Young" people on moparts.


We have trivia at our car club meeting on Thursday morning. Todays trivia was related to Pearl Harbor.


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Re: Sad day today, December 7th [Re: 52savoy] #3195963
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I have been fortunate enough to have been able to visit Hawaii twice in my life. If I got to go a hundred times more.....I would visit Pearl Harbor and the USS Arizona Memorial every time. It is a very somber and humbling experience. If any of you ever get to go, visit the Arizona Memorial and visitors center first, and the USS Missouri tour afterwards. The Missouri is docked right up from The Arizona Memorial, and they represent the beginning and the end of WWII for the USA. The Japanese surrendered on the deck of the USS Missouri.

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I lived in Hawaii for a while, and every visit to that ship and memorial was sobering & choked me up a bit.
Knew a few elderly Navy guys, and they still hadn't forgotten, nor had they forgiven the Japanese for that sneak attack.
The date still pops into my head every year.
I didn't see a mention of it on this morning's News, but maybe I missed it.

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My father served in the Navy WW2 at Pearl after the attack on a B26.
I heard his many stories.
I will never forget.
He had great disdain for war, and he enlisted the day after Pearl.


Reality check, that half the population is smarter then 50% of the people and it's a constantly contested fact.
Re: Sad day today, December 7th [Re: Mr PotatoHead] #3195979
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Originally Posted by Mr PotatoHead
I did not know there were "Young" people on moparts.


never said young, it was younger and how would I know the age demographic on MOPARTS?

A close family friend traveled around the country with his wife for almost 10 years and decided to enlist in the ARMY. He was posted in Hawaii as cook and when the Japanese attacked he was wounded. Later on in one of the island battles was disemboweled by a [censored] and sadly suffered from PTSD until his death 20 years later.

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Unfortunately, we as a country and society seem to have forgotten the sacrifices our predecessors made so that most of the current generations can live a life of entitlement down twocents 😢

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I wonder how busy Benihana was today.


Reality check, that half the population is smarter then 50% of the people and it's a constantly contested fact.
Re: Sad day today, December 7th [Re: TJP] #3196018
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Originally Posted by TJP
Unfortunately, we as a country and society seem to have forgotten the sacrifices our predecessors made so that most of the current generations can live a life of entitlement down twocents 😢
^^^^^^^^^^^^This man gets it. iagree


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A day that shall live in infamy..God bless the souls lost on that day.Our great uncle Carly was in WW 2 and fought against the nazis.


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Re: Sad day today, December 7th [Re: 52savoy] #3196021
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There is a book “Legacy of Ashes” which is a semi-official history of the CIA.

The first chapter tells the story of a meeting near the end of President Eisenhower’s term as President where he literally cussed out the head of the CIA.

Eisenhower’s anger was that at the beginning of his term he had clearly ordered the CIA head to
“quit doing any of the James Bond stuff, and concentrate on making sure another Pearl Harbor-like surprise attack does not happen.”

Eisenhower angrily yelled:
“You’ve left nothing but a legacy of ashes”

A few years ago a Kentucky newspaper did a series of articles about Pearl Harbor
centered around born in Kentucky Admiral Husband E. Kimmel.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Husband_E._Kimmel

These articles had a lot of stuff not normally discussed.

Washington DC Navy orders to restrict use of aviation gasoline in the Pacific
was perhaps the most
“penny wise and pound foolish”
decision ever as it stopped Sunday flights of PBY flying boats.

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Originally Posted by tboomer
Originally Posted by TJP
Unfortunately, we as a country and society seem to have forgotten the sacrifices our predecessors made so that most of the current generations can live a life of entitlement down twocents 😢
^^^^^^^^^^^^This man gets it. iagree

iagree I'm 43, so probably younger than most here. I have a huge amount of respect for everything and everyone involved in WW2 (not limited to just WW2 of course). Both of my grandfathers fought...Navy (USS Phoenix) and Army (fought in Africa).
We need more people like them.


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Re: Sad day today, December 7th [Re: 360view] #3196037
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Originally Posted by 360view
There is a book “Legacy of Ashes” which is a semi-official history of the CIA.

The first chapter tells the story of a meeting near the end of President Eisenhower’s term as President where he literally cussed out the head of the CIA.

Eisenhower’s anger was that at the beginning of his term he had clearly ordered the CIA head to
“quit doing any of the James Bond stuff, and concentrate on making sure another Pearl Harbor-like surprise attack does not happen.”

Eisenhower angrily yelled:
“You’ve left nothing but a legacy of ashes”

A few years ago a Kentucky newspaper did a series of articles about Pearl Harbor
centered around born in Kentucky Admiral Husband E. Kimmel.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Husband_E._Kimmel

These articles had a lot of stuff not normally discussed.

Washington DC Navy orders to restrict use of aviation gasoline in the Pacific
was perhaps the most
“penny wise and pound foolish”
decision ever as it stopped Sunday flights of PBY flying boats.


Not sure I understand that causation, Stopping Sunday PBY flights is a separate decision from restricting the use of aviation gasoline.
Besides, this country was so isolationist for the decade leading up to Pearl, and content to let Hitler roam unchecked in Europe for over 2 years 2 months, the lives lost at Pearl finally got us to rise up and do the right and needed thing.
That is on us, not canceled PBY flights.
There is a lesson here.


Reality check, that half the population is smarter then 50% of the people and it's a constantly contested fact.
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We did Hawaii a few years back. Did a cruise to all the popular islands...the only thing I was interested in was Pearl Harbor. Very sobering experience. IMO everyone should make it a goal to visit a couple places in their lives.... Pearl Harbor and the World Trade Center Memorial. I've been to both........very moving experience.

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We can never ever forget those that lost there lives from the sneak attack by the japenese.As a Navy vet and veteran of the largest naval battle since WW 2, Operation Praying Mantis I and my family will never forget them!


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