Re: Modifying column shift for drag racing
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Couple decades ago I had an idea to modify one for ratchet shifter operation, but it seemed too bulky and cumbersome so I abandoned it.
To mount it somewhere other than the engine bay would mean column-Cable-remote mounted shifter mechanism-cable-trans which is too much for me.
The indicator wouldn't read correctly either, it would appear to be in neutral visually so that's no good.
Maybe someone smarter than me (should be pretty easy to find LOL) can figure that out, sell it, and retire from the proceeds.....
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Re: Modifying column shift for drag racing
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I did one on a Duster, reverse VB, ground the detent so it’s flat from original neutral to second, pull into first (drive spot) pull down to second, pull toward you and down for third. Worked slick as a whistle. Really just smack the lever down for second. I still have the detent piece so could show pictures. At finish line push up to first or neutral, both freewheel. As long as you’re pushing down it won’t go into reverse. I would lay my palm on top of lever lever, except for third, not in front. Majority grab it with a reversed fist, a no no
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Re: Modifying column shift for drag racing
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I did one on a Duster, reverse VB, ground the detent so it’s flat from original neutral to second, pull into first (drive spot) pull down to second, pull toward you and down for third. Worked slick as a whistle. Really just smack the lever down for second. I still have the detent piece so could show pictures. At finish line push up to first or neutral, both freewheel. As long as you’re pushing down it won’t go into reverse. I would lay my palm on top of lever lever, except for third, not in front. Majority grab it with a reversed fist, a no no pictures please
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Re: Modifying column shift for drag racing
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I did one on a Duster, reverse VB, ground the detent so it’s flat from original neutral to second, pull into first (drive spot) pull down to second, pull toward you and down for third. Worked slick as a whistle. Really just smack the lever down for second. I still have the detent piece so could show pictures. I don't have a picture but this is how mine was done, have a reverse manual valve body in my Fury and it's straight down from 1(old D) to 2nd, then pull back and down for 3rd. It took me a few tries on the street to learn how to not go from 1st right to 3rd, now I make sure I'm pushing forward slightly on the 1-2.
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Re: Modifying column shift for drag racing
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I believe there was a thread a while ago on modifying a column shifter for drag racing. Modifying detents for more positive gear selection. Any suggestions?
Thanks Stick shift or automatic? 
Mr.Cab Racing and winning with Mopars since 1964. (Old F--t, Huh)
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Re: Modifying column shift for drag racing
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Here’s the piece laying on a stock one.
Total slot is approx .610, worked well for me. I highlighted it with silver paint.
Last edited by cudaman1969; 08/17/23 06:12 PM.
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Re: Modifying column shift for drag racing
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That's handy, thanks for the photo.
I'm undecided on whether a forward pattern isn't better with a column shifter, since you go towards Neutral.
Done that many a time on street cars.
Ain't no way I can beat the valve body going backwards, if I had to get Neutral quickly at speed.
Not a problem either way, very quick, depending on you of course
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Re: Modifying column shift for drag racing
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I think some of the F.A.S.T. guys have column shifters? Dudek's Hemi Cuda I think has a column shifter from a video I watched awhile ago.
Wonder if they run thru the gears by hand, or leave it in D and move the shift point rpms way up? Not supposed to launch in D with a normal automatic valve body though??? Pretty sure , like 99% the FASTEST of the FAST racers are running full manual valvebodies, I'm interested in the picture because if I ever get my Dart going and it runs into the 11's with my junk that I'm going to swap from a 4speed to a column automatic. It's an original 383, no console 4 speed car and I don't to alter the body in anyway.
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Re: Modifying column shift for drag racing
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Here’s the piece laying on a stock one.
Total slot is approx .610, worked well for me. I highlighted it with silver paint. Thanks for that photo , so that is the D gate that you widened ?
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Re: Modifying column shift for drag racing
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The RO/WO cars had a modified detent and it's easy to file yours for a manual vb. I've still got my old detent if you want a picture of of it. And for me I wouldn't have it any other way even though it is a bit challenging keeping your arm positioned with the G-force working against you. Running 11s wasn't to bad but running solid 10s it tested me. Yes picture please ... I imagine it was easier to do it with a shift lever to grab hold of vs. doing it with a pushbutton ...
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Re: Modifying column shift for drag racing
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Here’s the piece laying on a stock one.
Total slot is approx .610, worked well for me. I highlighted it with silver paint. Thanks for that photo , so that is the D gate that you widened ? Yes, no detent for first just second. You’ll be grinding off the second step, down from the drive spot. I smacked the lever down when going to second, pull for third. One thing else, the engine will have to be tied down so it doesn’t torque up, that will mess with linkage adjustment. No problem feeling when in goes in first gear. I thought of welding a little knob before the reverse notch but after running a few times never had a problem going from 3 back to N as long as I pushed down and up on lever. 11.6 second Duster
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