69 Dart GTS Fender tag help please. Updated!!
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Went to work on my soon to be acquired 69 GTS today.fuel pump has been changed and we took the 4160 Holley off and put in an accelerator pump diaphragm. Car starts but won't stay running unless you keep tapping the throttle. I think the sock in the tank may be plugged or the carb needs a rebuild! I had my wife write down the fender tag numbers in hopes that you guys can tell me what I have...No cash has exchanged hands until I can drive it onto a trailer! Her's what we got off the tag and there will be some missing numbers... M25R11V1 X END C15 C55 C15 C33 L31 6?1 B5 P68 83 404 1696 C4 Thanks fellas! Ted
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Re: 69 Dart GTS Fender tag help please.
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Some detective work ahead of ya - like, does the seller know when that issue started (any changes) ? Will it idle at a higher idle speed ? Runs roughly or smoothly ? Better when engine's up to temp ? Hopefully the diaphragm base & cap are flat - they're commonly warped. Need to check floats for corrosion, leaking fuel (won't float), setting. Squirt some carb cleaner into the carb, especially the bleeds. Could be a few things: plugged jets, improper idle adjustment... Worth looking in the distributor & cap for corrosion while you're there. Double-check your FT, some of that info doesn't read correctly... Decoder info: https://www.mopar1.us/6971codes.html
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Re: 69 Dart GTS Fender tag help please.
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Me, I would use this to my advantage to maybe reduce the price of the car a little You know it runs but of course not like it should and it's going to take (a little) work or $$$ to get it corrected. Doesn't seem to me like it going to really be a big issue to resolve. A new carburetor, a carb rebuild, a carb swap with a known working used one. Ask the owner if with this issue they would consider less for it? What happens if you get it running correctly and the guy then figures it's worth more than what he was hoping to get, then you just fixed it for him and then wants more $$$. I'd see if he will take less and get it home and get it running correctly. (and don't offer any help at this point on what might be wrong, again Sorry if I'm misreading the situation here but is seems you are fixing something that you don't own at the moment? Mike
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Re: 69 Dart GTS Fender tag help please.
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No cash has exchanged hands yet...I have a Moparts friend in the area that will try to help. I do want this car so I have no problem spending a few bucks on it. Topside..Thank you for that chart! My wife had some things wrong and I did figure out part of the tag.
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Re: 69 Dart GTS Fender tag help please.
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No cash has exchanged hands yet...I have a Moparts friend in the area that will try to help. I do want this car so I have no problem spending a few bucks on it. Topside..Thank you for that chart! My wife had some things wrong and I did figure out part of the tag. That IMO is even worse! Buy it/pay for it and I'll help you push it up on your trailer, go get the title transferred and then we'll fix YOUR GTS at home. Just saying because I can see and have seen good deals go bad. If you don't agree then post the contact info here and kiss it goodbye. Just close the deal if you really want it and then we'll all help to get it running so you can drive it OFF of your trailer at your home.
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If he no longer wants to sell it it's no big deal... And he is the one that is getting it running. Not me! And I did try to get it for less. He knows what he has.There's been guys trying to buy it for 20 years.
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Re: 69 Dart GTS Fender tag help please.
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Went to work on my soon to be acquired 69 GTS today.fuel pump has been changed and we took the 4160 Holley off and put in an accelerator pump diaphragm. Car starts but won't stay running unless you keep tapping the throttle. I think the sock in the tank may be plugged or the carb needs a rebuild! I had my wife write down the fender tag numbers in hopes that you guys can tell me what I have...No cash has exchanged hands until I can drive it onto a trailer! Her's what we got off the tag and there will be some missing numbers... M25 R11 V1X END C15 C55 C15 C33 L31 6?1 B5 P68 83 404 1696 C4 Thanks fellas! Ted There's a lot of missing numbers , like the entire bottom line for starters . How old is the gas in the tank ? I had a similar issue many moons ago , I dumped gas in a tank that I THOUGHT was empty to get my Superbee running before I bought it , turns out the 5 gallons I dumped in was on top of the gas/varnish that was in it already , the bottom of the float was rotten away i discovered later when I pulled the tank ... try running the car from a known clean gas jug running a line from the fuel pump into the jug ...
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Re: 69 Dart GTS Fender tag help please.
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Went to work on my soon to be acquired 69 GTS today.fuel pump has been changed and we took the 4160 Holley off and put in an accelerator pump diaphragm. Car starts but won't stay running unless you keep tapping the throttle. I think the sock in the tank may be plugged or the carb needs a rebuild! I had my wife write down the fender tag numbers in hopes that you guys can tell me what I have...No cash has exchanged hands until I can drive it onto a trailer! Her's what we got off the tag and there will be some missing numbers... M25R11V1 X END C15 C55 C15 C33 L31 6?1 B5 P68 83 404 1696 C4 Thanks fellas! Ted Tag should read: M25 R11 V1X V8X End C16 C55 G15 G33 L31 M21 B5 P6B B3 404 1696?4 E55 D32 LS23 P9B XXXXXX This is a normal layout for a 69 GTS 340 automatic. E55=340 D32=727 automatic trans LS23=Dart Special hardtop P9B=340 1969 Hamtramck, MI XXXXXX=VIN number B5=Blue metallic P6B=Premium Blue Bucket seats B3=Light blue door frame paint 404=April 4, 1969 build date 1606?4=SO# with one digit not reading correctly C16=Console C55=Bucket seats G15=Tinted windshield only G33=Left Hand outside chrome remote mirror L31=Fender top turn signals M21=Drip rail moldings M25=Body sill moldings R11=AM radio 2 watt V1X=Black vinyl top Should have a V88 or V8X indicating stripe END=End of sequence
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Re: 69 Dart GTS Fender tag help please.
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How old is the gas in the tank ? I had a similar issue many moons ago , I dumped gas in a tank that I THOUGHT was empty to get my Superbee running before I bought it , turns out the 5 gallons I dumped in was on top of the gas/varnish that was in it already , the bottom of the float was rotten away i discovered later when I pulled the tank ... try running the car from a known clean gas jug running a line from the fuel pump into the jug ...
Second that notion. I bought this to use as a temporary fuel tank when the stock tank is unavailable for whatever reason. Tie wrap it to the grille and away we go. Temporary Fuel Tank
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