Re: Motorhome 440 combos
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06/20/23 07:18 AM
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My son had a low comp style 440. MP 484 cam, Eddy heads, RPM intake, 600 Eddy carb, headers, 3.91, large 12" low performance stock torque converter, 255/60 radial T/A's. Though this combo seems all wrong it ran pretty decent. The cam/converter allowed no spin starts from just over idle. Ran 12.90@109 in a all stock 65 Belvedere. Doug
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Re: Motorhome 440 combos
[Re: Cab_Burge]
#3153180
06/20/23 09:18 PM
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I wish I remembered the combo I built for my Dad many years ago. .030’over 440, aftermarket cam, and I even ported his heads. That thing was a bear and towed great.
1970 Duster Edelbrock headed 408 5.984@112.52 422 Indy headed small block 5.982@112.56 mph 9.42@138.27
Livin and lovin life one day at a time
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Re: Motorhome 440 combos
[Re: pittsburghracer]
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06/21/23 08:30 AM
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Streetwize
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The easiest combo in the world is a 440 block that's bored to 4.342 (standard 400) and a stroker 4.15 crank with standard 440 6.76" rods using the stock 400 piston. This is combo the 4.15" stroke was decided upon by Mopar. Throw on a set of stealth heads and make some cheap power and torque. As I remember the piston comes up very close to zero deck, maybe. .015-.020 in the hole
People fuss about the heavy bobweight but it's lighter than a factory 440, even more if you whack 1/2" off the factory pressed pins.
Last edited by Streetwize; 06/21/23 08:34 AM.
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Re: Motorhome 440 combos
[Re: Streetwize]
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06/21/23 09:31 AM
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I had a cast crank '75 440 that was a re-ring and bearing special. It had the MP .484 cam and, at first, 906 heads and stock intake. Within a year it had standard port Stealths and a Holley Street Dominator. It ran really well for what it was and was a lot of fun. I thought I had a 6500 chip in the MSD when it turns out it was a 7500 chip. One day on a particularly spirited run down the highway I lost a wrist pin at the top of 2nd gear. The huge cast piston just couldn't take it anymore. The rod ended up sawing my perfect virgin block in half and made a metal soup out of the lower end. We were going fast enough I made it to the turnoff for the neighborhood and coasted within a few blocks of my house. The neighbor that was with me swore the car came off the ground when it blew and we were skating in oil and antifreeze for a bit... I never made it to the track but assume it was a probably a mid 12's combo as the car was lighter back then. I figured I had about $300+ in the shortblock and the heads came out unscathed so it was a reasonably priced lesson.
'63 Dodge 330 11.19 @ 121 mph Pump gas, n/a, through the mufflers on street tires with 3.54's. 3,600 lbs. 10.01 @ 133mph with a 250 shot of nitrous an a splash of race gas. 1.36 60 ft. 3,700 lbs.
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Re: Motorhome 440 combos
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06/21/23 10:19 AM
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Many years ago we built a motorhome block 440, it went 12.50's with a Torker II, 750 d/p Holley, a .509 cam, headers 3.90 gears and a B&M 10" converter. Weighed about 3700lb w/d at the time. Eventually it ran in the hi 11's with Indy S/R heads and 1.6 ratio rocker arms. An even later incarnation of the motor ran 12.00's with iron heads and a performer rpm.
'74 Challenger..9.46 @ 145.9 1/4, 6.001 @ 118 1/8 so far. 4023lb !!! # N/A, Marsh performance 655ci, Indy Maxx, T/R, Indy 600-13 X's, Street legal, pump gas, full interior, Cal-Tracs, mufflers, 3:73's and real 10.5 radials. 9.51 @ 142.4 1/4, 6.003 @ 114 1/8 with our old mule KB, 572-13, 580 wedge. RHD '68 Barracuda Fastback 323ci street/strip. Best ET 13.88 @ 99.03
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Re: Motorhome 440 combos
[Re: Streetwize]
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06/21/23 11:08 AM
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The easiest combo in the world is a 440 block that's bored to 4.342 (standard 400) and a stroker 4.15 crank with standard 440 6.76" rods using the stock 400 piston. This is combo the 4.15" stroke was decided upon by Mopar. Throw on a set of stealth heads and make some cheap power and torque. As I remember the piston comes up very close to zero deck, maybe. .015-.020 in the hole
People fuss about the heavy bobweight but it's lighter than a factory 440, even more if you whack 1/2" off the factory pressed pins. Wouldn't one have to cut some valve reliefs in the pistons with that? Even with the low-comp pistons down in the hole there is a limit to what cam can be run even with stock valve size
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Re: Motorhome 440 combos
[Re: Uberpube]
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06/21/23 05:00 PM
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Streetwize
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I had all the parts and I mocked one up but never built it with the oem pistons, but I think an KB Hypereutectic piston was 1.9 ch and stuck out about +.030 which I think I would have milled down, it already had the eyebrows. I would up using a bushed rod with a .990 BBC pin and an Arias piston
I think It would actually be a really cool combination with the KB's which were about $200 a set back then. i wouldn't have blinked at putting some eyebrows in the pistons though, I think the exhaust might have been more of an issue than the intake on that one.
Last edited by Streetwize; 06/21/23 05:01 PM.
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