Re: Factory mini starter
[Re: chargers777]
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06/14/23 07:47 AM
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Get a starter for a 2005-2008 Dodge Ram with a 5.7 and a MANUAL transmission, the automatic starter for this application is totally different and will not fit.
The manual transmission starter is a coaxial (planetary) gear reduction design, not offset like the Chrysler and Nippondenso gear reduction starters (the difference is shown below). That's why the motor housing is directly in line with the starter drive axis, making the whole starter more "compact".
Be sure and get a genuine starter with a Chrysler, Denso, or Nippondenso nameplate on it.
Last edited by earlymopar; 06/14/23 07:48 AM.
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Re: Factory mini starter
[Re: earlymopar]
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06/14/23 11:24 AM
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DGS
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Get a starter for a 2005-2008 Dodge Ram with a 5.7 and a MANUAL transmission, the automatic starter for this application is totally different and will not fit.
The manual transmission starter is a coaxial (planetary) gear reduction design, not offset like the Chrysler and Nippondenso gear reduction starters (the difference is shown below). That's why the motor housing is directly in line with the starter drive axis, making the whole starter more "compact".
Be sure and get a genuine starter with a Chrysler, Denso, or Nippondenso nameplate on it.
The 2005+ Hemi starter does NOT work on a 440! Small block yes iirc but on a BB the solenoid hits the block!
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Re: Factory mini starter
[Re: DGS]
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06/14/23 02:17 PM
06/14/23 02:17 PM
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moparx
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Get a starter for a 2005-2008 Dodge Ram with a 5.7 and a MANUAL transmission, the automatic starter for this application is totally different and will not fit.
The manual transmission starter is a coaxial (planetary) gear reduction design, not offset like the Chrysler and Nippondenso gear reduction starters (the difference is shown below). That's why the motor housing is directly in line with the starter drive axis, making the whole starter more "compact".
Be sure and get a genuine starter with a Chrysler, Denso, or Nippondenso nameplate on it.
The 2005+ Hemi starter does NOT work on a 440! Small block yes iirc but on a BB the solenoid hits the block! well that's something to know ! i was ready to pull the plug for two of those for my projects ! so it's still the dakota starter then, with TTI 2"/2 1/8" /3 1/2" collector headers ? 
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Re: Factory mini starter
[Re: DGS]
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06/14/23 04:00 PM
06/14/23 04:00 PM
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375inStroke
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The 2005+ Hemi starter does NOT work on a 440! Small block yes iirc but on a BB the solenoid hits the block!
Can confirm. When I first saw the starter, I thought too good to be true. Well, it was.
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Re: Factory mini starter
[Re: 375inStroke]
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06/14/23 05:19 PM
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larrymopar360
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If you can get dimensions on the factory Dak starter you'll see it's basically a mini at much lower cost
Facts are stubborn things.
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Re: Factory mini starter
[Re: earlymopar]
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06/15/23 07:29 AM
06/15/23 07:29 AM
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earlymopar
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Sorry about this. In trying to provide a quick answer, I completely missed that this is a big block application.
Get a starter for a 2005-2008 Dodge Ram with a 5.7 and a MANUAL transmission, the automatic starter for this application is totally different and will not fit.
The manual transmission starter is a coaxial (planetary) gear reduction design, not offset like the Chrysler and Nippondenso gear reduction starters (the difference is shown below). That's why the motor housing is directly in line with the starter drive axis, making the whole starter more "compact".
Be sure and get a genuine starter with a Chrysler, Denso, or Nippondenso nameplate on it.
Last edited by earlymopar; 06/15/23 07:29 AM.
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Re: Factory mini starter
[Re: moparx]
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06/19/23 10:45 AM
06/19/23 10:45 AM
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Graz, Austria
DGS
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Get a starter for a 2005-2008 Dodge Ram with a 5.7 and a MANUAL transmission, the automatic starter for this application is totally different and will not fit.
The manual transmission starter is a coaxial (planetary) gear reduction design, not offset like the Chrysler and Nippondenso gear reduction starters (the difference is shown below). That's why the motor housing is directly in line with the starter drive axis, making the whole starter more "compact".
Be sure and get a genuine starter with a Chrysler, Denso, or Nippondenso nameplate on it.
The 2005+ Hemi starter does NOT work on a 440! Small block yes iirc but on a BB the solenoid hits the block! well that's something to know ! i was ready to pull the plug for two of those for my projects ! so it's still the dakota starter then, with TTI 2"/2 1/8" /3 1/2" collector headers ? Or you can do this (some fab work involved though): https://board.moparts.org/ubbthread...e-mini-starter-question.html#Post3101507![[Linked Image]](https://i.postimg.cc/Bn5wrJgx/20210609-212202.jpg) ![[Linked Image]](https://i.postimg.cc/WprPSFK3/20210609-212151.jpg)
Last edited by DGS; 06/19/23 10:46 AM.
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Re: Factory mini starter
[Re: DGS]
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06/19/23 11:22 AM
06/19/23 11:22 AM
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SattyNoCar
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I ran a mini starter in my wagon for years that I pulled out of a '92 van. Only issue was this style had an adaptor for the wires that needed to be removed (easy). My wagon had a '77 440 with HP manifolds.
As much as I missed the gear reduction whine, it was really nice having to basically just bump the starter to get it to start.
John
The dream is dead, long live the dream.......😥
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