Re: Hemi Headers in an Ebody
[Re: rickseeman]
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05/19/23 02:10 AM
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BD I don't know which block you are using but if it's Callies or World I will have to direct you to a video. I have an aluminum Bill Mitchell block. Casting is 2019+, 4.5" bore. Very interested in the video you're referencing. Thank you.
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Re: Hemi Headers in an Ebody
[Re: rickseeman]
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who makes those multi piece headers for Hemi and are they available for A body? Yes, Hooker makes those :scope Thats the ones I used back then, (their 2 1/8 race headers) Jack (CRS his last name now ) their race car fab guy back then, circa 1973, gave me them for free That surprised the heck out of me
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Re: Hemi Headers in an Ebody
[Re: Cab_Burge]
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The aftermarket guys would do things like that back then Cab, you know that! That was when Gary and his brother owned the company and long before they moved the production to Mexico and the company went from nice high-quality to where it is now with the Holley group.
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Re: Hemi Headers in an Ebody
[Re: an8sec70cuda]
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I have the TTI 2.25" primary 4" collector headers on my '70 cuda. It has all stock front suspension and everything else. The passenger side header will go in the car after the motor is in. If you unbolt it, it will just about fall out of the car. Bolts aren't that bad to do from underneath the car. Had to do a little massaging to the top outer primary tube to clear the torsion bar ahead of the collector. The driver's side Needs to be in the car prior to the motor going in. Most of those bolts are easily done from up top. I do have a motorplate instead of factory mounts. Thanks for the tip on the drivers side header. Ordered my 2.25 to 3.5 TTI headers from Indy and hope to get them this week. Deanna is so helpful over there at Indy. I am using the AR motor plate from Mancini. I dropped the hemi in and bolted the 727 up and installed the driveshaft for a test fit.The Miloden oil pump with single line was set up on the lower port on the pump and dropping down to the 8qt oil pan and was getting interference with the stock motormount perches in the kframe. So I pulled the engine and cut both motormount perches off the stock kframe. This should give me more room for the headers and the diaper. 8-second...whose diaper and trans blanket are you using?
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Re: Hemi Headers in an Ebody
[Re: Chip]
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05/23/23 09:26 AM
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I don't have a diaper. I use a CSR carbon fiber shield.
CHIP '70 hemicuda, 575" Hemi, 727, Dana 60 '69 road runner, 440-6, 4 speed, Dana 60 '71 Demon 340, no drivetrain, on blocks behind the barn '73 Chrysler New Yorker, 440, 727, 8.75 '90 Chevy 454SS Silverado, 476" BBC, TH400, 14 bolt '06 GMC 2500HD LBZ Duramax
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Re: Hemi Headers in an Ebody
[Re: mopar dave]
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Now that the Hemi is in and the headers on you now know what works and what dont. Would like to know if it would have been easier installing with the heads off? I need to install a 572 Hemi into an A body using TTI 2 1/8 headers. My thought was to install with 727 bolted on, but without the heads. Really not sure of the best way to do this, but any opinions from you would be appreciated. Thanks Dave- My engine was all built and dyno tested by Indy...complete long block (callies iron siamese block). I would drop the engine in with the heads My EBODY was tight with a HEMI. I do not know muck about a-body as never had one. I did installed my 500inch wedge with the trany bolted on with a hoist that could pivit the angle of the assembly. This time i wanted to go engine in first and bring the trany in from under the car. With the front engine plate I was able to slide the engine forward on the frame rails in the engine bay enough to bring my 727 in from down under. Once engine and trany bolted together...I just slid the engine and trany back into correct position in the bay so the stock trany mount bolted into place. TTI is really good at making headers for mopar. 8-second said he had to put his drivers side header into the bay and drop the hemi engine into it. TTI told me I could get the header in from below if I raised the engine enough and TTI was right. It was tight but the 2.25 header went in (with scuffs and scratches). I spoke with Sam at TTI and he provided technical assistant on the phone. Call TTI and ask them about your application. They been doing it for years. One thing about my 2.25 header in the EBODY with all else stock. It is tight with little to no clearance from torsion bars and the transmission. I use a blanket on my 727 trany and the blanket is against the headers so I made some aluminum shields to stuff between the headers and the blanket so the blanket won't melt away from the heat of the headers. The drivers side is tightest because the PPP shifter bracket takes some room. Wish someone would make a certified case...but not enough MOPAR drag racers. More Chevy and Ford. Just look at the Summit sales magazine...very little Mopar product.
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Re: Hemi Headers in an Ebody
[Re: mopar dave]
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06/12/23 09:35 PM
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Now that the Hemi is in and the headers on you now know what works and what dont. Would like to know if it would have been easier installing with the heads off? I need to install a 572 Hemi into an A body using TTI 2 1/8 headers. My thought was to install with 727 bolted on, but without the heads. Really not sure of the best way to do this, but any opinions from you would be appreciated. Thanks Put the engine in, slip trans in from bottom. Starter goes on, then headers, then steering box, once bolted up you can put the pitman arm on and slip the torsion bars in. That’s using the tti a body headers. Depending on how you locate the engine, mine is in the spot the original 383 was at I needed to space the k frame down 1/2” for header clearance to the steering linkage. Thankful I have a lift.
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Re: Hemi Headers in an Ebody
[Re: Chip]
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06/13/23 08:13 AM
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One thing I forgot to mention...the headers have to come out, or be really loose, for the transmission to come out of the car. I remove the passenger side header and then take the driver's side loose. The headers wrap around underneath the bellhousing enough that you can't drop the trans down w/ the headers in place.
CHIP '70 hemicuda, 575" Hemi, 727, Dana 60 '69 road runner, 440-6, 4 speed, Dana 60 '71 Demon 340, no drivetrain, on blocks behind the barn '73 Chrysler New Yorker, 440, 727, 8.75 '90 Chevy 454SS Silverado, 476" BBC, TH400, 14 bolt '06 GMC 2500HD LBZ Duramax
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