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Re: Be careful of whom you buy from [Re: bigdad] #3140983
04/27/23 10:23 AM
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well except when he said send it back and hung up on me


The lips of fools bring them strife, and their mouths invite a beating.Proverbs 18:6
Re: Be careful of whom you buy from [Re: bigdad] #3140989
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It's the fender exit headers of transmissions.


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Re: Be careful of whom you buy from [Re: JERICOGTX] #3140990
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Originally Posted by JERICOGTX
It's the fender exit headers of transmissions.



all of that and a slipping clutch


The lips of fools bring them strife, and their mouths invite a beating.Proverbs 18:6
Re: Be careful of whom you buy from [Re: bigdad] #3140997
04/27/23 11:38 AM
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I would put the company name in the title of this thread if it were me.


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My John Cope CRT racing transmission problems [Re: BloFish] #3141007
04/27/23 12:08 PM
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Keep thinking possibly there is some good nature in his dna and he will offer to help fix the problem but, so far .. nuttin

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The lips of fools bring them strife, and their mouths invite a beating.Proverbs 18:6
Re: My John Cope CRT racing transmission problems [Re: bigdad] #3141103
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John offered to have you send it back to him and he would fix it for free and pay for shipping both ways. You posted his original invoice to you for the transmission over on your similar rant at forabodiesonly. You bought that transmission from him almost 2 years ago! Most places would have told you the warranty is long past, but John offered to fix it for you at no cost. You decided not to send it back to him and bring it somewhere else, this is 100% on you now. There is no shop in the world that would pay someone else to fix something 2 years after it was purchased when they offered to fix it themselves for you at no charge.

Re: My John Cope CRT racing transmission problems [Re: Dodger440] #3141113
04/27/23 10:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Dodger440
John offered to have you send it back to him and he would fix it for free and pay for shipping both ways. You posted his original invoice to you for the transmission over on your similar rant at forabodiesonly. You bought that transmission from him almost 2 years ago! Most places would have told you the warranty is long past, but John offered to fix it for you at no cost. You decided not to send it back to him and bring it somewhere else, this is 100% on you now. There is no shop in the world that would pay someone else to fix something 2 years after it was purchased when they offered to fix it themselves for you at no charge.


Seriously?????


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Re: My John Cope CRT racing transmission problems [Re: Dodger440] #3141122
04/28/23 12:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Dodger440
John offered to have you send it back to him and he would fix it for free and pay for shipping both ways. You posted his original invoice to you for the transmission over on your similar rant at forabodiesonly. You bought that transmission from him almost 2 years ago! Most places would have told you the warranty is long past, but John offered to fix it for you at no cost. You decided not to send it back to him and bring it somewhere else, this is 100% on you now. There is no shop in the world that would pay someone else to fix something 2 years after it was purchased when they offered to fix it themselves for you at no charge.


Considering the timeline from payment to accepting goods you are waaaayyy out of line.

I kept hoping Mr Cope would make this right. Very disappointed

Re: My John Cope CRT racing transmission problems [Re: Dodger440] #3141125
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Originally Posted by Dodger440
John offered to have you send it back to him and he would fix it for free and pay for shipping both ways. You posted his original invoice to you for the transmission over on your similar rant at forabodiesonly. You bought that transmission from him almost 2 years ago! Most places would have told you the warranty is long past, but John offered to fix it for you at no cost. You decided not to send it back to him and bring it somewhere else, this is 100% on you now. There is no shop in the world that would pay someone else to fix something 2 years after it was purchased when they offered to fix it themselves for you at no charge.


I've never dealt with CRT but you sure seem to cuck for him. Did you even read OP's posts?

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Re: My John Cope CRT racing transmission problems [Re: cdwmotorsports] #3141127
04/28/23 02:11 AM
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I bought parts from CRT many years ago, I had mixed experience with him. He was helpful in some regards, but not so much in others.

He initially sent me the wrong frictions and steels (he sent 727 parts, rather than the 904 stuff I ordered). I had to wear sending the clutch plates back to him, and pay for shipping on the replacements. I live in Australia by the way.

Hopefully you get it sorted out


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Re: My John Cope CRT racing transmission problems [Re: bigdad] #3141145
04/28/23 07:57 AM
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Out of +30,000 genes in human DNA
is there at least one gene for dishonesty?

The scheme of
“Pump and Dump”
is really old
and goes back at least to
“The South Sea Stock bubble”
in England”
or
Tulip Bubble
in Holland.

Many auto websites and social media generally have active
Pump & Dump schemes
going constantly.
“Cold Air Intakes” are classic examples.

I continue to believe in
“The wisdom of moparts”

The quick lavish praise of John Cope in the past
then the slow trickle of actual experience
reveals the classic pattern.

moparts members have handled it better than average, if slower than a good ET

Figures never lie, but liars are alway Figuring

Re: My John Cope CRT racing transmission problems [Re: 360view] #3141147
04/28/23 08:16 AM
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People are sending me PM's with their experiences... Not many want to step up and say, I got the pickle, fear of being drawn into a fight on the net, embarrassed they got taken .. etc i suppose but, I assure all.. I'm not the only one taken down a bad path


he sold me a transmission that was 100% built to fail within moments of putting it in gear. its hodge podge collection of mis matched junk


The lips of fools bring them strife, and their mouths invite a beating.Proverbs 18:6
Re: My John Cope CRT racing transmission problems [Re: J_BODY] #3141148
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Originally Posted by J_BODY
Originally Posted by Dodger440
John offered to have you send it back to him and he would fix it for free and pay for shipping both ways. You posted his original invoice to you for the transmission over on your similar rant at forabodiesonly. You bought that transmission from him almost 2 years ago! Most places would have told you the warranty is long past, but John offered to fix it for you at no cost. You decided not to send it back to him and bring it somewhere else, this is 100% on you now. There is no shop in the world that would pay someone else to fix something 2 years after it was purchased when they offered to fix it themselves for you at no charge.


Considering the timeline from payment to accepting goods you are waaaayyy out of line.

I kept hoping Mr Cope would make this right. Very disappointed


Mr Cope did offer to "make this right". He told the OP to send it back and he would fix it for free and pay shipping both ways. I think that if the same situation happened with any other transmission company, the offer would have been the same or less. Do you really think if Pro Trans, A&A, Transact, Turbo Action, or any of the other performance transmission companies had a similar issue and offered to have the transmission sent back to them to be fixed but the customer refused and brought it somewhere else to be repaired, that they would be sending the customer a check to cover the repairs? Of course not.

Re: My John Cope CRT racing transmission problems [Re: Dodger440] #3141153
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You would have to understand the complete situation , if he was a bit easier to speak to ( everyone can attest to that ) and would of spent a few minutes with me on the phone instead of just hanging up , I assure you I did not yell at him ..

Just some simple remorse on his end would of went a long way .

I just seen it as , send it back .. all your fault , send me xxxx numbers of dollars and I'll send it back .. I have ran out of trust with him .. Rightfully so too

Best choice then was to work with someone local that I can speak to in person and view the parts that are incorrect and resolve it but, he has so many things wrong inside of it and with the torque convertor. its taking extra time to fix everything.


I've talked to others that sent theirs back, he never did repair them , they did what I did ..sent it elsewhere


The lips of fools bring them strife, and their mouths invite a beating.Proverbs 18:6
Re: My John Cope CRT racing transmission problems [Re: bigdad] #3141157
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I have a hard time sending something back to someone who couldn't get it right in the first place.


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Re: My John Cope CRT racing transmission problems [Re: bigdad] #3141159
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Originally Posted by bigdad
You would have to understand the complete situation , if he was a bit easier to speak to ( everyone can attest to that ) and would of spent a few minutes with me on the phone instead of just hanging up , I assure you I did not yell at him ..

Just some simple remorse on his end would of went a long way .

I just seen it as , send it back .. all your fault , send me xxxx numbers of dollars and I'll send it back .. I have ran out of trust with him .. Rightfully so too

Best choice then was to work with someone local that I can speak to in person and view the parts that are incorrect and resolve it but, he has so many things wrong inside of it and with the torque convertor. its taking extra time to fix everything.


I've talked to others that sent theirs back, he never did repair them , they did what I did ..sent it elsewhere



Sadly this has been his MO for years. Any time someone would post a complaint his internet nutswingers would try to blame the victim.


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Re: My John Cope CRT racing transmission problems [Re: GY3] #3141162
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Originally Posted by GY3
I have a hard time sending something back to someone who couldn't get it right in the first place.




wasn't like its just a seal or a spring ,, its more or less, everything was / is wrong on it .. complete mess


The lips of fools bring them strife, and their mouths invite a beating.Proverbs 18:6
Re: My John Cope CRT racing transmission problems [Re: slantzilla] #3141196
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Originally Posted by slantzilla

Sadly this has been his MO for years. Any time someone would post a complaint his internet nutswingers would try to blame the victim.


Well he woudl not be alone in that for sure especially here.

Sorry to hear of the issues for sure. I have never dealt with him. When I need TF stuff its been the guys at A&A or A1 and no complaints with either. hate to see this stuff happen but its an unfortunate part of this "hobby"


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Re: My John Cope CRT racing transmission problems [Re: Al_Alguire] #3141198
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My rebuilt 727 from CRT works great. Just leaks from everywhere. Oh well, I guess I'll never have to change fluid. Just keep adding fresh.

Re: My John Cope CRT racing transmission problems [Re: bigdad] #3141229
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John never asked me to send my 48RE back so he could fix it or make it right, just that he would take care of covering the converter swap. After finding the 2 obvious F##f-ups when i pulled pan off, I had my reservations about the quality of the rest of the build. I has a local shop swap out the wrong converter he had sent, and took my chances with the rest. It has worked fairly well, did have Issues at Spring Fling last year but was able to find a local shop that knew the tranny's, and got it repaired quickly. I, too have bought tranny's from him since he left the dealership, and been happy with him. Hell, I've hauled at least 40+ cores out to him, including some diesel stuff I sent out with the 48RE. I'm not worried about liable or repercussions from him, his track record speaks volumes. Jim


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