Headers for an F-Body Small Block???
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01/17/23 05:31 PM
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A buddy with a Volare wagon asked me what headers would fit on his car with a 360 LA small block and I've never messed with F-Bodies at all so I figured that I'd ask here. He said he's looked online and couldn't fine a clear answer so I searched on here and didn't really come up with one either. Any recommendations out there for brands that fit and clear?
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Re: Headers for an F-Body Small Block???
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Not cheap but TTI makes headers for them. Dougs D453 are another good choice. Both do not hang low like other brands.
Last edited by mopars4ever; 01/17/23 09:39 PM.
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Re: Headers for an F-Body Small Block???
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01/18/23 12:52 PM
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Not to go too far off topic but is there any header manufacture that kind of generalizes what type of power increase or power characteristics their headers produce? Years ago I was talking with Jere Stahl of Stahl headers of course and he told me that he worked a lot with producing the best power and torque for where the buyer was going to use, drive or race the engine he was making them for. Jere said that he used to go to circle track races and with a radar gun record the speeds in the corners and somehow calculate the rpm engines were running (don't know how he did it but that's what he said?) then talk to the drivers and I think he said he only found one driver that ever knew exactly what rpm he was running. He used a similar approach at making all of his headers and that's why he used the term “Total-Tuned” Headers. Is there any header manufacture that gives any kind of type of power or even a hint of type of power or power increase information? The only place I ever see this is with motorcycle 2-stroke expansion chamber exhaust pipes where you can get a pipe that will give you more bottom power, or better mid-range power or more top power for road racing or even motocross. Seems to me about the only info for headers is fitment. So when fitment isn't a big issue like a rail or fender well cutouts does the manufacture say "these will give you more mid-range power, or 10% increase in power or do they continue to say nothing but "they fit XYZ model from x year to y year?". In 1969 I put a set of Hooker Headers on my stock and new '69 383 Road Runner and they knocked 2 tenths off of my quarter mile times with no carb or any modifications. Same deal back then no header manufacture made any claims but fitment. I don't get it. As here in this thread the replies seem to be more about fitment than performance. Sorry just ranting a little or maybe the two cups of Death Wish Coffee talking Mike Way too many variables to even guess. Proper sizing is left to the builder, as it should be.
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Re: Headers for an F-Body Small Block???
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Hooker used to make a set specifically listed for F body Mopars. I used them on my M without any need for clearance. They were cheaper though and the cheap ones run three of the primary tubes under the steering link on the driver's side. Depending on the condition of the roads where you live the risk of those tubes kissing the road is quite high. Didn't take long for it to happen to me in Michigan. Only thing that stopped it from happening was installing a pair of Firm Feel 300# torsion bars.
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Re: Headers for an F-Body Small Block???
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01/22/23 03:46 PM
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I've used both of these in a '80 M-body coupe (Diplomat):
1) #78050, Headman Headers 2) #5901, Hooker Competition headers
Both were 1-5/8" primary pipe diameter. I liked the Hooker pipes better...the flange was thicker and perhaps the tubes as well. They were heavier w/o a doubt.
For my W2 stroker build I selected:
TTI #340BEW2-17835C0 , 1-7/8" primary tube, un-finished, 3-1/2" collector
...but I haven't tossed the combo into the car yet, so no hands-on fitment results to report.
FYI - I have long time ago gone the route of the Lokar cable setup for both throttle and kickdown, so I didn't have to make some of the adjustments to the support/pivot rod that I remember doing in my first Mopar ride, that being a '78 Plymouth Caravelle (M-body, Canuck).
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