Re: Max wedge rods
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Here's my take on any 60-year old rods that have who knows how many abusive cycles subjected to them.Toss them in the scrap pile and go buy some nice aftermarket H-beam rods.
You'll have a much lighter and stronger rod made from billet 4340 chromoly steel, 7/16" ARP 2000 capscrew bolts that have superior clamping strength compared to a stock 3/8" through bolt design.
I sell 6.76" Molnar Technologies H-Beam replacement rods bushed either a stock wrist pin diameter or a .990" wrist pin for $660 delivered to your door with free shipping.
While the old nostalgic race stuff is cool to look and talk about the cost of building an engine at today's prices WHY would anyone take a chance of using antique connecting rods.
When I pull out in my street car or when I am racing my drag car I want to press the pedal to the floor and not worry about an well used connecting rod breaking.
Can you really afford to have a well used 60-year old rod ruin your entire engine to save $84 a rod?
Tom
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Re: Max wedge rods
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If you have max wedge pistons like l have,use max wedge piston rods to. Max wedge pistons never had Ly rods on them.non heavier max wedge rods as stated above.has anyone used Ly rods on max wedge pistons? Seriously doubt anyone has. LY rods have/had a 1000gram piston/rod on them from the factory, what is so SPECIAL about a max wedge piston other than it's compression height? Many people talk up the 6 pack rod like it was the savior of the 440 , Chrysler fubared that one too , a heavy hemi sized rod with the small bolts from an LY rod ...
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Re: Max wedge rods
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Here's my take on any 60-year old rods that have who knows how many abusive cycle subjected to them.Toss them in the scrap pile and go buy some nice aftermarket H-beam rods.
You'll have a much lighter and stronger rod made from billet 4340 chromoly steel, 7/16" ARP 2000 capscrew bolts that have superior clamping strength compared to a stock 3/8" through bolt design.
I sell 6.76" Molnar Technologies H-Beam replacement rods bushed either a stock wrist pin diameter or a .990" wrist pin for $660 delivered to your door with free shipping.
While the old nostalgic race stuff is cool to look and talk about the cost of building an engine at today's prices WHY would anyone take a chance of using antique connecting rods.
When I pull out in my street car or when I am racing my drag car I want to press the pedal to the floor and not worry about an well used connecting rod breaking.
Can you really afford to have a well used 60-year old rod ruin your entire engine to save $84 a rod?
Tom
Exactly
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Re: Max wedge rods
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Here's my take on any 60-year old rods that have who knows how many abusive cycle subjected to them.Toss them in the scrap pile and go buy some nice aftermarket H-beam rods.
You'll have a much lighter and stronger rod made from billet 4340 chromoly steel, 7/16" ARP 2000 capscrew bolts that have superior clamping strength compared to a stock 3/8" through bolt design.
I sell 6.76" Molnar Technologies H-Beam replacement rods bushed either a stock wrist pin diameter or a .990" wrist pin for $660 delivered to your door with free shipping.
While the old nostalgic race stuff is cool to look and talk about the cost of building an engine at today's prices WHY would anyone take a chance of using antique connecting rods.
When I pull out in my street car or when I am racing my drag car I want to press the pedal to the floor and not worry about an well used connecting rod breaking.
Can you really afford to have a well used 60-year old rod ruin your entire engine to save $84 a rod?
Tom
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Re: Max wedge rods
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426 max wedge engines form factory never used ly rods for them. They needed a stronger rod to keep up with the hp&torque those max wedges put out. Used for nascar and nhra etc.unless it's was a 426 street wedge then they used ly rods.
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Re: Max wedge rods
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[quote=JohnRR][quote=PROSTOCKTOM]Here's my take on any 60-year old rods that have who knows how many abusive cycle subjected to them.Toss them in the scrap pile and go buy some nice aftermarket H-beam rods. I CAN'T HEAR YOU but he might later OP, are you listening? If not you should, buy a new better set of rods now. I race NHRA stock class for many years in my old 1963 Plymouth 415 HP M.W. car as well as helped many other division 7 M.W. racers. We raced the crap out of those motors and learned the hard way to buy new better race parts when it comes to any motor that will be push hard, even now and then. You DO NOT want a rod, piston or wrist pin failure at any rpm above an idle, trust me on that one I've been sideways at 115 MPH in the lights sideways due to a piston and rod failure in that car, NOT GOOD Luckily it didn't hit the guard rail or cross over into the other lane until the other car was out of our way boogie: That failure broke the block, transmission case, front U joint, blew the starter off the tranny and shorted it out on the headers, melted the battery cable all the way to the trunk and blew up the battery, all in about 4 seconds As mentioned above, listen now and take action now or regret your lack of actions later It is always cheaper to make it good now than later
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Re: Max wedge rods
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[quote=JohnRR][quote=PROSTOCKTOM]Here's my take on any 60-year old rods that have who knows how many abusive cycle subjected to them.Toss them in the scrap pile and go buy some nice aftermarket H-beam rods. I CAN'T HEAR YOU but he might later OP, are you listening? If not you should, buy a new better set of rods now. I race NHRA stock class for many years in my old 1963 Plymouth 415 HP M.W. car as well as helped many other division 7 M.W. racers. We raced the crap out of those motors and learned the hard way to buy new better race parts when it comes to any motor that will be push hard, even now and then. You DO NOT want a rod, piston or wrist pin failure at any rpm above an idle, trust me on that one I've been sideways at 115 MPH in the lights sideways due to a piston and rod failure in that car, NOT GOOD Luckily it didn't hit the guard rail or cross over into the other lane until the other car was out of our way boogie: That failure broke the block, transmission case, front U joint, blew the starter off the tranny and shorted it out on the headers, melted the battery cable all the way to the trunk and blew up the battery, all in about 4 seconds As mentioned above, listen now and take action now or regret your lack of actions later It is always cheaper to make it good now than later Cab, Nice of you and the others to try and help The old adage comes to mind, "You can lead a horse to water but you can't make him drink" unless he's thirsty. This one isn't 🙄🦨
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Re: Max wedge rods
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TJP- your some troll,not even using six pack rods no duh there super heavy six rods are.this post was about early max wedge rods not about six rods and 440 pistons. You blind can't read my post right.
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Re: Max wedge rods
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Keep engine old-school by using nos mopar factory rods, good ol trw pistons and 70s after market speed engine parts.🤘 They why did you even ask. You had your mind made up before you even posted this thread. Technology and improvements make today's parts better than old used up junk..
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Re: Max wedge rods
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Are 2406395 which are early maxie rods. Good rods to use for 426 max wedge. No, there are lots of better choices these days. But I know how stubborn some Mopar guys are. Just had a customer insist that he needed 906 heads for his street build. I have a set of perfect 452 heads which I would've sold him for a fair price but he said he had to have 906 heads. He ended up buying 6 sets of 906 heads before he was able to find a pair of good heads. Most everything he bought turned out to be junk! The old stuff is just about all used up. Most of the stuff for sale these days is just old junk. You have to be very careful, or very lucky to find good cores anymore.
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Re: Max wedge rods
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TJP- your some troll,not even using six pack rods no duh there super heavy six rods are.this post was about early max wedge rods not about six rods and 440 pistons. You blind can't read my post right. MM judging by your post count and your responses you be da troll ༼ つ ◕_◕ ༽つ 🙄
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Re: Max wedge rods
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Are 2406395 which are early maxie rods. Good rods to use for 426 max wedge. I'm a non-expert, but... Based on the OP's responses to his own question, I'd say "yes"....those are what you want to use.
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Re: Max wedge rods
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More like you are creeper stalker, that stalks my posting
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Re: Max wedge rods
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Are 2406395 which are early maxie rods. Good rods to use for 426 max wedge. I'm a non-expert, but... Based on the OP's responses to his own question, I'd say "yes"....those are what you want to use. Yep his mind is made up. So whenever those 60 year old parts give up he'll be back on here asking why. If you're going to pound on it I wouldn't use them.
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