pinion angle
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12/11/22 07:28 PM
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63 dart 360/904/7&1/4 circle track. I am raising the eng/trans so I can fit good flowing magnum ex manifolds. what is the max degrees offset I can use? I know I want the degrees pretty close but in opposite planes. I do have angled shims for the rear axle as needed. Thank you for your time. RR
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Re: pinion angle
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12/11/22 07:35 PM
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O boy. The pinion angle subject.
First question is - which u joint is closer to the ground, front or rear?
If the results don't match the theory, change the theory.
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Re: pinion angle
[Re: dvw]
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I will check/measure further. I've definitely jacked up the eng quite a bit to try & run these manifolds. thanks guys. RR
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Re: pinion angle
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The motor and rearend can be offset quite a bit, as long as the pinion angle is set within reason, no more than 5* down, or less. I used a Ford 8.8 in a 65 dart i built, which was out of line side to side by 2+ inch? But the differential and engine were parallel side to side, about three degrees down pinion angle. 500 hp 408, no problems.
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Re: pinion angle
[Re: dvw]
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5 degrees wouldn't scare me. Shouldn't matter which end is higher. Doug If you're trying to make the pinion and crankshaft parallel, it does. You do NOT want to run the pinion angle up (negative) in relation to the driveshaft C/L. If the engine/trans is angled down (front u joint lower than the front of the crank C/L) that doesn't change. It just needs to be adjusted around to get the best compromise. A million backhalf cars out there like that.
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Re: pinion angle
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if the pinion angle is angled up, it will wrap "up" more under acceleration, and vibrate bad. Pinion can be up if it's less than the trans is down in the rear. My racecar is 1/2 degree up. But the trans is 2 degrees down. Doug
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Re: pinion angle
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12/14/22 04:51 PM
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if the pinion angle is angled up, it will wrap "up" more under acceleration, and vibrate bad. Pinion can be up if it's less than the trans is down in the rear. My racecar is 1/2 degree up. But the trans is 2 degrees down. Doug What angle is the pinion shaft V in relations to the drive shaft? The longer the driveshaft the less angle there is there, correct?
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