Re: Fast cars with a third pedal...
[Re: 68LAR]
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10/29/16 01:33 AM
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Adding a 3.09 1st just makes the gear spread terrible. I will drive it more than race it If you're putting a lot of power to the overdrive 833, I'm thinking you're going to be disappointed with its longevity. Agreed. Went this route several years back. Actually bent the input shafts twice. Annnnd, I didn't go any faster. Actually went slower. Went back to an 18 spline with 2.65 low and everything is good again. Also, I don't know if they will chime in, but there are 2 other cars that are pretty impressive. My Son's '69 Dart, street car(Lar414), with a 414 stroker has gone deep into the 11's. A good friend of mine, OLDIRON has a '67 Barracuda that has gone low 9.90's. Both cars are very impressive, Just sayin'.......... Did not know "Lar414" was your son. His Dart is really awesome. You and your son have two really cool Mopars that look great and run very good. I belive his Dart was in Mopar Muscle some years back. And I think he put a crossram on it also if I am not right. Like I say you guys have two awesome Mopars that anyone would love to own. Ron
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Re: Fast cars with a third pedal...
[Re: 72Swinger]
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10/29/16 01:44 AM
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72 Dart, 420" 6.1 Hemi, Viper T56, 3.91s, 335 street tires, 3700lbs with me in it,pump 91, 2300ft above the sea, been to track once and best pass out of 4 was 12.09@121.75 with a lousy 2.0 60ft. Track sucked,runs better on the street. How did you get it so heavy? Sounds like a killer street car. lots of ways lol, 1.75x.120 wall full road race cage, 14" front steel SRT rotors that weigh 30lbs each,full Interior, front and rear swaybars etc. The cage alone is 200 lbs. Used to weigh 3240 with an iron head BB. Wow, seems really cool. Do you think it handles better with the hemi.
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Re: Fast cars with a third pedal...
[Re: Al_Alguire]
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10/29/16 02:40 AM
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Check out Tim Riggleman's small block Daytona. In the 7's. Runs with the Pro Stick group. Is this a blue Daytona? Yes.
If the results don't match the theory, change the theory.
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Re: Fast cars with a third pedal...
[Re: 1967dartgt]
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10/29/16 03:12 AM
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72 Dart, 420" 6.1 Hemi, Viper T56, 3.91s, 335 street tires, 3700lbs with me in it,pump 91, 2300ft above the sea, been to track once and best pass out of 4 was 12.09@121.75 with a lousy 2.0 60ft. Track sucked,runs better on the street. How did you get it so heavy? Sounds like a killer street car. lots of ways lol, 1.75x.120 wall full road race cage, 14" front steel SRT rotors that weigh 30lbs each,full Interior, front and rear swaybars etc. The cage alone is 200 lbs. Used to weigh 3240 with an iron head BB. Wow, seems really cool. Do you think it handles better with the hemi. Definitely, car is balanced but needs more rear spring.
Mopar to the bone!!!
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Re: Fast cars with a third pedal...
[Re: sshemi]
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10/30/16 06:41 PM
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Re: Fast cars with a third pedal...
[Re: 383man]
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11/01/16 12:56 PM
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Adding a 3.09 1st just makes the gear spread terrible. I will drive it more than race it If you're putting a lot of power to the overdrive 833, I'm thinking you're going to be disappointed with its longevity. Agreed. Went this route several years back. Actually bent the input shafts twice. Annnnd, I didn't go any faster. Actually went slower. Went back to an 18 spline with 2.65 low and everything is good again. Also, I don't know if they will chime in, but there are 2 other cars that are pretty impressive. My Son's '69 Dart, street car(Lar414), with a 414 stroker has gone deep into the 11's. A good friend of mine, OLDIRON has a '67 Barracuda that has gone low 9.90's. Both cars are very impressive, Just sayin'.......... Did not know "Lar414" was your son. His Dart is really awesome. You and your son have two really cool Mopars that look great and run very good. I belive his Dart was in Mopar Muscle some years back. And I think he put a crossram on it also if I am not right. Like I say you guys have two awesome Mopars that anyone would love to own. Ron
1969 Dart GTS 340 1969 Super Bee X9 N-96 1969 Coronet R/T X9 N-96 2015 Dodge Dart GT 2019 Ram 2500 Big Horn. Looking for the original block for my Bee. The last 4 are 7449
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Re: Fast cars with a third pedal...
[Re: taxidermy man]
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11/01/16 09:39 PM
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I have in my 67 Barracuda a home built pump gas 505 stroker, Edelbrock heads, 950 HP Holley, American Powertrain Kevlar 11" disc&pressure plate, dana 60 with 4.56 gears. runs 10.30 at 130 What have I broke? The 833, the dana gears, the u-joints and a lot of oil pans
it's ok to butt heads, just don't do it with a butthead
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Re: Fast cars with a third pedal...
[Re: rowin4]
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11/02/16 11:02 AM
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I have in my 67 Barracuda a home built pump gas 505 stroker, Edelbrock heads, 950 HP Holley, American Powertrain Kevlar 11" disc&pressure plate, dana 60 with 4.56 gears. runs 10.30 at 130 What have I broke? The 833, the dana gears, the u-joints and a lot of oil pans Nice. As long as the oil pan isn't breaking from parts flying through it, that's ok, right?
1969 Dart GTS 340 1969 Super Bee X9 N-96 1969 Coronet R/T X9 N-96 2015 Dodge Dart GT 2019 Ram 2500 Big Horn. Looking for the original block for my Bee. The last 4 are 7449
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Re: Fast cars with a third pedal...
[Re: OhioMopar]
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11/02/16 12:05 PM
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I have in my 67 Barracuda a home built pump gas 505 stroker, Edelbrock heads, 950 HP Holley, American Powertrain Kevlar 11" disc&pressure plate, dana 60 with 4.56 gears. runs 10.30 at 130 What have I broke? The 833, the dana gears, the u-joints and a lot of oil pans Nice. As long as the oil pan isn't breaking from parts flying through it, that's ok, right? Never , knock on wood put anything through the pan or hurt any bottom end rotating parts , 6800 RPM's at every shift . Pan damage is from wheel stands.
it's ok to butt heads, just don't do it with a butthead
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Re: Fast cars with a third pedal...
[Re: OhioMopar]
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11/05/16 12:57 PM
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[/quote] That's cool. Thanks! Sometimes I think I should have gone with a 4.10 over a 3.54 in my Dana. [/quote]
I have a 4.10 Dana in my 70 Challenger RT. It is a bit busy on the street though. I am currently using a OD version of the 833 and it is a good offset of the 4.10 on a road trip. But the gear spread and ratio drops is too excessive. But I will be switching back to my Hemi 4 speed once I am thru with the rebuild to install new bearings and new syncro's. The engine is 440 with MW heads, Indy intake and 1050 2 circuit Dominator. Cam is 258/262@50 w 580/562 lift. The Dana and the leaf springs are from a 69 GTX 4 speed car. Have not had it to the track since I got it back on the road as I am afraid of breaking the OD 4 speed trans. Jerry
Old Geezer Racing
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Re: Fast cars with a third pedal...
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11/06/16 07:44 AM
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I really like this Dart. Looks clean and this is an awesome shot Thank you. I pretty much built it all by myself exept the engine. Theres an in car vid on youtube from a tnt day. Search for swede4speed kjula.
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Re: Fast cars with a third pedal...
[Re: SCATPACK 1]
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11/06/16 04:35 PM
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I really like this Dart. Looks clean and this is an awesome shot You said it as thats one nice Dart. Ron
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Re: Fast cars with a third pedal...
[Re: OhioMopar]
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11/11/16 04:46 PM
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Who's got them? What's your combo? What does it run? What have you upgraded? What have you broken? Thanks! There's got to be more stick cars out there that fit this profile.. Where you at???????
4 speed street legal. Best time 10.99 @ 124 mph on 93 octane pump gas @ 3926# total weight
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