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Re: Another wheel tire combo question.
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The '69 Super Bee's have a little more rear wheel well clearance than a '69 Road Runner and I only know that 275/60 -15 tires on 10x8x4.5 will barely fit on the rear of a '69 Road Runner/GTX and that is barely. It's no problem on a '69 Super Bee but so close on a RR/GTX that I went with 255/60-15's on the RR and GTX both '68 and '69 and could just get a finger of clearance between the tire and inner fender well. You might want to go to the A12 Registry here http://a12mopar.com/yabb/YaBB.pl as there's a lot of experience with wheel/tire combo's and '69 Super Bees. http://a12mopar.com/yabb/YaBB.pl
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Re: Another wheel tire combo question.
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Funny you should ask because I just measured all this on my 69 RR yesterday. The Plymouth will be the same as the Dodge except for the out tub and quarter.
From the rear quarter inside fender lip to lip is 74-1/2"
The tire you're using has a 12"cross section
10" wheel with 5-1/2" backspace + 1" of tire makes a total backspace of 6-1/2" OR 5-1/2" on the front spacing
So 60" axle width plus 11" (for two wheels/tires) = 71"
So you'll have 1-3/4" from the tire wall to the fender lip - probably more because yours is a Dodge
But the problem will be the inside of the tub. The original tubs measure 14" from the lip.
With that wheel tire combo you'll only have 1/4" clearance AT THE MOST from the tub.
A 1/2" wheel spacer will solve your problem but I think you could use a wheel with a 4-1/2" backspace with no problems at all.
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Re: Another wheel tire combo question.
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10/08/22 09:52 AM
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I will say this, on my 68 Charger I have 15x10 ,4 7/8 BS, if it was 5.5 BS it would rub on the leaf spring when making sharp turns at speed because of tire flex
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Re: Another wheel tire combo question.
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Funny you should ask because I just measured all this on my 69 RR yesterday. The Plymouth will be the same as the Dodge except for the out tub and quarter.
From the rear quarter inside fender lip to lip is 74-1/2"
The tire you're using has a 12"cross section
10" wheel with 5-1/2" backspace + 1" of tire makes a total backspace of 6-1/2" OR 5-1/2" on the front spacing
So 60" axle width plus 11" (for two wheels/tires) = 71"
So you'll have 1-3/4" from the tire wall to the fender lip - probably more because yours is a Dodge
But the problem will be the inside of the tub. The original tubs measure 14" from the lip.
With that wheel tire combo you'll only have 1/4" clearance AT THE MOST from the tub.
A 1/2" wheel spacer will solve your problem but I think you could use a wheel with a 4-1/2" backspace with no problems at all. So your thinkin a 15x10 /4.5bs. i would assume the 15x 10 wide rim would look better on a 295/65 than a 15x8 i think.. but im pretty sure that the 15x8x4.5 is a no brainer and it does work.
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Re: Another wheel tire combo question.
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So a 15x10 with a 4.5 BS Will work without rubbing fender or leaf ya think? If all fails i def know the 15x8 4.5bs def works.. NOPE 15x10 4.5 bs will hit the outer well, all these cars were built with a very bad tolerance, most these gen B bodies with stock width Diff work with a 15x10, 5in BS
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Re: Another wheel tire combo question.
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So a 15x10 with a 4.5 BS Will work without rubbing fender or leaf ya think? If all fails i def know the 15x8 4.5bs def works.. NOPE 15x10 4.5 bs will hit the outer well, all these cars were built with a very bad tolerance, most these gen B bodies with stock width Diff work with a 15x10, 5in BS I think ill just stick with the 15x8x4.5. Instead of playin games.
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Re: Another wheel tire combo question.
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don't forget to measure BOTH sides, no matter what you decide to go with. the tolerances were so bad back then, that you could have up to 3/4-1" difference side to side, without the car in question being crashed in it's lifetime. 1/2-5/8" difference is very common. that, and 50 plus years of potholes and other maladies, and who knows what a person will come up with that will effect tire/wheel fitment. 
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Re: Another wheel tire combo question.
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So a 15x10 with a 4.5 BS Will work without rubbing fender or leaf ya think? If all fails i def know the 15x8 4.5bs def works.. NOPE 15x10 4.5 bs will hit the outer well, all these cars were built with a very bad tolerance, most these gen B bodies with stock width Diff work with a 15x10, 5in BS I think ill just stick with the 15x8x4.5. Instead of playin games. So in theory a 15x10x5bs with that tire sboukd work as well? I did find a nice wheel in a15x10x5bs
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Re: Another wheel tire combo question.
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What is the wheel/tire combo on the front of your Bee ?? Not my Bee but Gary T's. His son "Little Gary" just sent me a text (Big Gary is driving his Bee now) with his tire and wheel info: Fronts are 1 5x4.5 wheels with 215/75R 15 tires. Rear: 15x8 wheels with 4.25 back spacing, tires 29x12.5(but I did get my Y4 A12 RM21 Road Runner in a roundabout way from GaryT who bought it from the second owner in the early '90's. Second owner bought it in 1971 from a used car lot in Youngstown, Ohio. The name of the used car lot that had the ROAD RUNNER was named..........wait for it.........................it's a ROAD RUNNER .................the used car lot was named ACME MOTORS    no lie (note the mistake of R AOAD RUNNER on the '71 title  ) Mike
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Re: Another wheel tire combo question.
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So a 15x10 with a 4.5 BS Will work without rubbing fender or leaf ya think? If all fails i def know the 15x8 4.5bs def works.. NOPE 15x10 4.5 bs will hit the outer well, all these cars were built with a very bad tolerance, most these gen B bodies with stock width Diff work with a 15x10, 5in BS I think ill just stick with the 15x8x4.5. Instead of playin games. So in theory a 15x10x5bs with that tire sboukd work as well? I did find a nice wheel in a15x10x5bs Now I am not sure if the Charger & your car have the same room, here is an old pic of mine with 15x10 4 7/8 { call it 5 } with a 295/50/15
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Re: Another wheel tire combo question.
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I will say this, on my 68 Charger I have 15x10 ,4 7/8 BS, if it was 5.5 BS it would rub on the leaf spring when making sharp turns at speed because of tire flex Do you have any pics of yours?
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Re: Another wheel tire combo question.
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10/09/22 09:07 AM
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Now I am not sure if the Charger & your car have the same room, here is an old pic of mine with 15x10 4 7/8 { call it 5 } with a 295/50/15 So in theory a 15x10x5bs with that tire sbould work as well? I did find a nice wheel in a15x10x5bs I bought my wheels and tires from a guy with a Charger. 15 x 10's with 5-1/2 BS. As I previously mentioned - they would fit the OP's bee with a 1/2" spacer - which is what the guy was using on his Charger. The outer wheelhouse is not an issue on a Dodge - it is on a Plymouth. A 15 x 10 with 5" BS will work just fine - same as if you used a spacer on the 5-1/2" BS wheel. FWIW ALL B-bodies of that era have the same frame spacing and use the same inner tubs. It's the outers that are different and the Dodges have a bit more room than the Plymouths.
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Re: Another wheel tire combo question.
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Now I am not sure if the Charger & your car have the same room, here is an old pic of mine with 15x10 4 7/8 { call it 5 } with a 295/50/15 So in theory a 15x10x5bs with that tire sbould work as well? I did find a nice wheel in a15x10x5bs I bought my wheels and tires from a guy with a Charger. 15 x 10's with 5-1/2 BS. As I previously mentioned - they would fit the OP's bee with a 1/2" spacer - which is what the guy was using on his Charger. The outer wheelhouse is not an issue on a Dodge - it is on a Plymouth. A 15 x 10 with 5" BS will work just fine - same as if you used a spacer on the 5-1/2" BS wheel. FWIW ALL B-bodies of that era have the same frame spacing and use the same inner tubs. It's the outers that are different and the Dodges have a bit more room than the Plymouths. Perfect, thanks everyone. Looks like ill be going 15x10x5bs..
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