Re: newerish daily driver, cheap to fix if needed?
[Re: Andrewh]
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anyone see a flaw in my plan? Putting $11k+ into a 12+ year old car that's worn out and has 200k plus miles on it. If you're willing to spend $11k or more on something like that and giving them your Sonata, why not buy the kid a 5-6 year old Corolla or Civic? You'll spend a little more, but they're also cheap and easy to own/maintain, and you'll have a few years before you have to start chasing the constant wear/breakage that will occur with the 95-2011 Fords you're referring to.
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Re: newerish daily driver, cheap to fix if needed?
[Re: Andrewh]
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09/23/22 03:28 PM
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Box styled Jeep Cherokees last a long time if you can find one that is not totally used up, or has been turned into a rock crawler.
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Re: newerish daily driver, cheap to fix if needed?
[Re: Andrewh]
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well, 2 to 3 k of that was to replace all the parts that might have worn out was the plan.
at the point I would buy a 5 year old corolla or honda, it is within a couple of k of a sub compact new. I mean that is where I am kind of now in my thinking, but 4k instead of 2k or so. if that makes sense. The only 2 subocompacts you're getting for $16k are a Chevy Spark (if you can find one) or a Nissan Versa. Versa has a ton of safety features for it's price point, but the Civic and Corolla are still better cars with better track records. I'm in a similar situation. Younger daughter starts driving in less than a year. Used car prices are high. The 6 year old, $3,700 Civic I bought for my older daugher in April 2019 and put $2,500 into would be a $7,500 car today, and still need $2,500 worth of work. We're trying to decide whether to buy my wife a new car and give my wife's car to my daughter, buy my daughter a new car (Civic or Corolla), or bite the bullet and overpay for a similar used Civic/Corolla that we bought for the older one, only at the higher price point of today. Not an easy call.
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Re: newerish daily driver, cheap to fix if needed?
[Re: Andrewh]
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that is true, but my job has a couple of kickbacks if I pick up a new all electric car. it drives the final price down on the few I found into the 14-16k range. but it would be something like a leaf or bolt. along with texas and .gov kick backs on 1 or both I forget. which also may not be there when I am ready to buy.
honestly if I could find an old m-body or r-body with working A/C I would take that all day long, lol. I know what goes wrong on those and can fix them in my sleep. but the lack of safety features for the kids would drive me to newer cars. I believe the last two years of M body production had airbags. Of course that would make them at least 30+ year old airbags Dodge Darts are cheap (last version not the A body ones, lol)
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Re: newerish daily driver, cheap to fix if needed?
[Re: Sniper]
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09/23/22 04:02 PM
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Just flipped 300K on my Pontiac (Toyota) Vibe. (well sort of...odometer quits at 299,999..LOL). Runs like a top, cheap to fix. Would drive it anywhere
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Re: newerish daily driver, cheap to fix if needed?
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09/23/22 05:56 PM
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Lots of advantages to an older car that still has parts support and is simpler/cheaper to repair, and finding the nicest one you can for the money. FWD or RWD depends on where you live; my FWD car was simply better in snow when I was commuting 126/day on mixed roads. Best safety feature is a good high-performance driving school so they learn control, dynamics, paying attention, and to not panic. Not to mention firmly establishing a "no phone when driving" rule. To learn the value of money & material things, a used car is better IMO. As in "want better? earn it" life lesson. There's also something to be said for depreciating assets, meaning minimizing them, which is also a valid and useful life lesson.
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Re: newerish daily driver, cheap to fix if needed?
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Not exactly new but C3 corvettes are pretty cheap and reliable. Basic 350 to fix, parts everywhere. If he takes care of his stiff it would be worth at least what you put into it on a few years. Of course a 16 YO on a Vette is another concern. lol, I tried that idea on the ol' lady, when my son turned 16, telling her "no back seat". It didn't fly, I wonder what insurance for a teen boy and a C3 would cost
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Re: newerish daily driver, cheap to fix if needed?
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I think your plan is pretty solid, giving your kid the newer, safer car to drive and the 4.6 cars you are looking at are probably decent choices (tough for a Mopar only guy to say).
Facts are stubborn things.
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Re: newerish daily driver, cheap to fix if needed?
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2.4 Auto darts with under 100k miles are easy in the 8-9k area.
Some 2.4-s have oil burning issues but not all. the 2.0s are good also, the 1.6 turbo and manual are all junk by 100k. Some well taken care of 2.4-s (auto) are now past 300k miles.
My main reason to buy the first one is my wife is frail and the Darts have 10 air bags and a very good crash rating.
If needed they are simple to work on.
Just an example off the web.
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Re: newerish daily driver, cheap to fix if needed?
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like 1 week a year we get ice. Jan or Feb time frame. so snow really isn't an issue. When we do get the ice storms the city shuts down, so no one drives anyway. except stupid 17 year old me spinning out and having to drive the wrong way on an empty street with a cop driving my way on the correct side of the street.
The other reason I was going to take the older car, was if it doesn't work that day, I can work from home without it being a big deal, vs the kid missing school or whatever.
I recognize that she might kill what ever I give her, based on my destructive past, and while a beater might be better, safety is more important.
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Re: newerish daily driver, cheap to fix if needed?
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Last spring I found an 03 Chev Monte Carlo SS 2 nd owner for about 4k. I have less than 6k in it it's been a great car. 3.8 gets 23 mpg. Avoid anything that doesn't have a 3.8. Their out there. Buicks, Olds.
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