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How good is the Terminator X Hemi ignition map? #3072526
08/30/22 02:41 AM
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Is the ignition map in the ECU a semi-direct clone of the factory? I'm curious if I need to be tinkering with it much. I thought I heard these things only needed like 24° timing, and the map goes much higher, albeit in zones that often can be like light cruise. I'm leaving for RMRW 2.0 in a few days and want to know if y'all think it is close enough to roll with.

Last edited by 67Charger; 08/30/22 03:22 PM.

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Re: How good id the Terminator X Hemi ignition map? [Re: 67Charger] #3072593
08/30/22 12:38 PM
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If I recall on engine masters they said it was really good out of the box. they played with it to see if they could make it better and they couldn't.

I think you can roll with it. just data log and keep an eye on it.


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Re: How good id the Terminator X Hemi ignition map? [Re: Kiddart] #3072639
08/30/22 02:56 PM
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Now that you mention it, I vaguely remember watching that episode. Same with the cam timing and SRV timing. I want to be able to spray it with a tiny shot (~75-100HP) of N2O to run the index class at RMRW 2.0 starting this weekend, and I won't have much tuning time beforehand.


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Re: How good id the Terminator X Hemi ignition map? [Re: 67Charger] #3072688
08/30/22 04:45 PM
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get after it and just watch your data logs and pre-detonation. I would think adding info for a shot would be simple in the Holley terminator. everyone raves on how easy they are. If i would have only known when i bought my mega squirt gold box.


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Re: How good id the Terminator X Hemi ignition map? [Re: Kiddart] #3072723
08/30/22 05:47 PM
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I've got the ECU setup for it already. I'm using huge BigShot solenoids from my previous 4150 plate system, so progressive at such a small shot probably wouldn't work well at the tiny duty cycle. I'm going to try it off the EFI fuel system as a wet-shot since I'm running a 255LPH pump on an otherwise small engine, and I don't think the injectors have enough capacity to provide the extra fuel. 1 switched input to arm it and the rest is ecu controlled to 85% and 4000 rpm to activate. Progressive and delay are just programmed inputs. I have a low pressure pump and standalone cell (also from the plate system) for the fuel if it needs more. I got rid of the megasquirt because it was TOO adjustable and opensource. I needed better baseline.


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10.75 @ 125.35 w/ a little spray
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Re: How good id the Terminator X Hemi ignition map? [Re: 67Charger] #3073158
09/01/22 08:37 AM
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yes Megasquirt is more complex in my dealings with it. works just complex.

Good Luck


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Re: How good id the Terminator X Hemi ignition map? [Re: Kiddart] #3076663
09/12/22 05:43 PM
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Just to follow up... didn't touch the timing map, nor really study it prior to the event. I ran the first 2 tracks without nitrous, and it felt FLAT above 5600. I uncorked the exhaust and got another 100 rpm out of it. 13.26. I hit it with a 75 shot 4 seconds out and got a 13.09 pulling 4°. 100 shot got it to 13.010, so I left it alone since I was in the 13 index. I looked at the map before track 5, after the averages were locked in for the event, but before the bracket race of Day 5. This thing only had 12° at WOT above 3500. I moved it to 18 and instantly got a 12.6 @ 109. I had screwed with the bad alignment and somehow made it worse, bad enough I had to let out 60' short of the 1320 because it was so squirrely. I put it on the trailer after that, but I know there is a ton more hiding in that map.


11.33 @ 118.46 on motor
10.75 @ 125.35 w/ a little spray
Now, high Speed Open Road Racing - Silver State Classic Challenge, Nevada Open Road Challenge, Big Bend Open Road Race
Rocky Mountain Race Week 2020, 2022 2.0, Sick Week 2023






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