Will Charger/Challenger plants go idle for year?
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Everything indicates new Charger/Challenger or their replacements out in 2024. What I'm wondering is will there be 2023 LX cars? It's hard to find out right now. I can't find any info on release dates of 2023 model LX's, build and price, or any of that. Is it just too early for that or do you think the plants will have to be re-tooling and there will be no 2023's?
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Re: Will Charger/Challenger plants go idle for year?
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Well there's supposed to be a replacement sedan at least, completely redesigned, just unknown whether it'll be a Charger. Remember the tease video from FCA about the electrified future?
The first year for the all new is 2024. So there'll be a 2023 Charger?
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Re: Will Charger/Challenger plants go idle for year?
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My dealer told me there will be.
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Re: Will Charger/Challenger plants go idle for year?
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Plants setting idle don;t make money and costs.
That's pre-COVID thinking. The manufacturers have now figured out by keeping inventory sitting on dealer lots artificially low, they can charge artificially high prices and increase profit on each unit. Empty lots and higher prices are the new normal.
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Re: Will Charger/Challenger plants go idle for year?
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Plants setting idle don;t make money and costs.
That's pre-COVID thinking. The manufacturers have now figured out by keeping inventory sitting on dealer lots artificially low, they can charge artificially high prices and increase profit on each unit. Empty lots and higher prices are the new normal. Got any source for that?
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Plants setting idle don;t make money and costs.
That's pre-COVID thinking. The manufacturers have now figured out by keeping inventory sitting on dealer lots artificially low, they can charge artificially high prices and increase profit on each unit. Empty lots and higher prices are the new normal. Got any source for that? Dealers are benefiting on a unit basis, volume is killing manufacturers and dealers. Development is insanely expensive, costs won't be recovered without volume, future development funds will be curtailed to all our detriment.
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Re: Will Charger/Challenger plants go idle for year?
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Thinking back to the point of when the current Charger was proposed and the arguments on every Mopar site about 2-Door or 4-Door was all that seemed to be talked about. IMO opinion it seems Ma Mopar knew better to go with a 4-Door as it seems to have been one of the best law enforcement vehicles ever for modern Mopar and maybe even better than the 4-Door Crown Vic. What will replace the Charger 4-Door Law Enforcement CAR/Sedan and don't say an SUV This should be interesting. Our county and village patrol units are pick-up trucks and SUVs and have been for a while.
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Re: Will Charger/Challenger plants go idle for year?
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Plants setting idle don;t make money and costs.
That's pre-COVID thinking. The manufacturers have now figured out by keeping inventory sitting on dealer lots artificially low, they can charge artificially high prices and increase profit on each unit. Empty lots and higher prices are the new normal. Got any source for that? There’s more to it than that. Ralph Gilles discusses this in a podcast: https://youtu.be/vLYB5Z_qU5YLow volume on dealer lots will be the norm.
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Re: Will Charger/Challenger plants go idle for year?
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Plants setting idle don;t make money and costs.
That's pre-COVID thinking. The manufacturers have now figured out by keeping inventory sitting on dealer lots artificially low, they can charge artificially high prices and increase profit on each unit. Empty lots and higher prices are the new normal. Got any source for that? Dealers are benefiting on a unit basis, volume is killing manufacturers and dealers. Development is insanely expensive, costs won't be recovered without volume, future development funds will be curtailed to all our detriment. This ^. The manufacturer bills the dealer for the car once it rolls off the line. The lots will be stuffed as soon as they can and the discounts will also be back.
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Re: Will Charger/Challenger plants go idle for year?
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That doesn't go for Ford. And other carmakers are expected to follow suit. " Ford noticed, and now the company wants to shift more future buyers to the vehicle ordering process, Ford CEO Jim Farley said on a conference call this week with reporters to discuss the company's second-quarter results. Getting more buyers to order a specific vehicle online can also help Ford's bottom line.
"We are really committed to going to an order-based system and keeping inventories at 50 to 60 days' supply," he said. "I know we are wasting money on incentives." www.caranddriver.com/news/a37187201/ford-build-to-order-online-ordering-changes/Reducing inventories reduces overhead, most notably interest. And reduces the need for incentives to move slow moving units. There will be inventories, just lower numbers with fewer discounts.
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Re: Will Charger/Challenger plants go idle for year?
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Thinking back to the point of when the current Charger was proposed and the arguments on every Mopar site about 2-Door or 4-Door was all that seemed to be talked about. IMO opinion it seems Ma Mopar knew better to go with a 4-Door as it seems to have been one of the best law enforcement vehicles ever for modern Mopar and maybe even better than the 4-Door Crown Vic. What will replace the Charger 4-Door Law Enforcement CAR/Sedan and don't say an SUV This should be interesting. Our county and village patrol units are pick-up trucks and SUVs and have been for a while. Ditto; a lot of local LEO's here got in Durangos a few years ago, and see mant county guys in Rams. Still seeing Ferd SUV's as well.
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Re: Will Charger/Challenger plants go idle for year?
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That doesn't go for Ford. And other carmakers are expected to follow suit. " Ford noticed, and now the company wants to shift more future buyers to the vehicle ordering process, Ford CEO Jim Farley said on a conference call this week with reporters to discuss the company's second-quarter results. Getting more buyers to order a specific vehicle online can also help Ford's bottom line.
"We are really committed to going to an order-based system and keeping inventories at 50 to 60 days' supply," he said. "I know we are wasting money on incentives." www.caranddriver.com/news/a37187201/ford-build-to-order-online-ordering-changes/Reducing inventories reduces overhead, most notably interest. And reduces the need for incentives to move slow moving units. There will be inventories, just lower numbers with fewer discounts. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EvXRTnZbECsToyota has hinted that they will be at a 30-day supply or less going forward. Instead of learning from the pandemic about all of the pitfalls of "lean" manufacturing, it appears some manufacturers are doubling-down instead.
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