Re: 70 Challenger 318 upgrade 440 etc.
[Re: 3hundred]
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06/03/22 12:20 PM
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JohnRR
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Save yourself a LOT of time, money and effort, sell this car unmolested and buy an already built 440 Challenger. 2¢ He bought this car to flip, he's a used car dealer.
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Re: 70 Challenger 318 upgrade 440 etc.
[Re: JohnRR]
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06/03/22 12:47 PM
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DaveRS23
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After he gets knee deep into this one, we may have a shot at another unfinished project. I wonder if the car still has the original engine and trans in it? And taking the A/C off may not be a good idea. With all the money and effort this project will take, and with the availability of aftermarket components, keeping the A/C wouldn't be that difficult and would be a good sales point. At least IMHO. If it is being built to flip, which is the better profit center: converting to the 440 or building a stoker S/B with A/C? I would think that the stroker would be so much less time and money that it could leave more margin to the OP in the end. Opinions?
Master, again and still
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Re: 70 Challenger 318 upgrade 440 etc.
[Re: DaveRS23]
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06/03/22 02:10 PM
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Considering the cost of the 440 project and all that it entails. Cost is not that much different than a completely rebuilt 340 with 'J' heads and rebuilt 727 with shift kit and 8 3/4 sure grip. Estimate cost about 10k - store the matching 318. 904, and 7 1/4 rearend and the a/c unit for a future use.
70 Road Runner 528 HEMI 4sp FY1
70 Road Runner 440+6 V-Code AG 4spd EV2
69 R/T 4 Spd Dana 3:54 AG Vert B5
69 R/T 4 Spd Dana 3:54 AG X9 V1X V8R-WORKING
69 R/T Auto/Console 8.75 SG Vert R/T B3
08 Challenger 1st Edition Hemi Orange
69 Super Bee 4 Spd 8.75 SG AG F8
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Re: 70 Challenger 318 upgrade 440 etc.
[Re: MASSMOPAR]
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06/03/22 08:23 PM
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DaveRS23
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Considering the cost of the 440 project and all that it entails. Cost is not that much different than a completely rebuilt 340 with 'J' heads and rebuilt 727 with shift kit and 8 3/4 sure grip. Estimate cost about 10k - store the matching 318. 904, and 7 1/4 rearend and the a/c unit for a future use. Well, we should at this point agree to disagree. Good luck with your project.
Master, again and still
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Re: 70 Challenger 318 upgrade 440 etc.
[Re: Tom_440]
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06/04/22 09:22 AM
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This is what I have: 1970 Challenger 318, floor shift 904 and 7 1/4 rear end. and a Crate 440 To summarize needs: Appreciate info where I can purchase these items: - Motor mounts and brackets - The bracket that holds shifter bell crank - - Kick down linkage for 727 - Rod to shift lever - Drive shaft and slip yoke - 727 Transmission - 8 3/4 rear end - sway bars -front and rear - torsion bars - dual exhaust - power steering brackets/hoses - Radiator and hoses. If it where mine i would add a rally dash to the list! As with any part you need to search and see what your options are. Are you buying new,rebuilt finding used and rebuilding it to your liking etc. Since you have the 440 start with the major things you need like the trans/rear then work on the smaller things. I would keep the AC but not use the old V twin compressor. It's for R12 and most likely you will want to convert to 134. There are places that offer kit's to use newer134 compressors etc. Swap meets, Classifieds and web searches are your friend just my $.02
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Re: 70 Challenger 318 upgrade 440 etc.
[Re: boomerodell]
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06/04/22 01:37 PM
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Thank you for sharing your experience. I am toying the idea of saving the 440 crate for a B body project. And building this Challenger into a T/A tribute. Lately - I always start out with the idea of keeping my projects then after heavy investment of time and $$ end up selling around the break even point. . I'll keep the original drive train in any event on this Challenger.
70 Road Runner 528 HEMI 4sp FY1
70 Road Runner 440+6 V-Code AG 4spd EV2
69 R/T 4 Spd Dana 3:54 AG Vert B5
69 R/T 4 Spd Dana 3:54 AG X9 V1X V8R-WORKING
69 R/T Auto/Console 8.75 SG Vert R/T B3
08 Challenger 1st Edition Hemi Orange
69 Super Bee 4 Spd 8.75 SG AG F8
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