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Race Car Enclosed Trailer Wheels/Tires……from 15” to 16” #3045905
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I was finally able to find a trailer to do the job that’s in great shape and didn’t cost a fortune. I always buy new tires regardless what the owner tells me when buying a used trailer. This trailer currently has 15” wheels. Since I’m about to buy new trailer-worthy tires I’m interested to know if I can just buy some 16” wheels/tires for it versus continuing to use 15” stuff. Anyone done this before? If so I’d like to hear about it, and which wheel/tires sizes you selected to use. Thanks!

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Re: Race Car Enclosed Trailer Wheels/Tires……from 15” to 16” [Re: EvilB1Dart] #3045908
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I converted my old classic dominator from 15-in to 16-in. After blowing 22 Goodyear Marathon radials, I had had enough. I just bought some six lug, 16 in rims and then some good 16 in load range e tires. Everything worked out fine until I put a 5,500 lb car in the trailer. It caused enough deflection that the top of the tires cambered in and rubbed on the wheel wells. So I took a hammer and finessed the wheel wells where the rub marks were. Keeping that in mind, I would get the narrowest 16 in tires you can. Something like a 215/85R16. By the way there's nothing wrong with putting a truck tire on the trailer.

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Re: Race Car Enclosed Trailer Wheels/Tires……from 15” to 16” [Re: Hemi_Joel] #3045912
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Originally Posted by Hemi_Joel
I converted my old classic dominator from 15-in to 16-in. After blowing 22 Goodyear Marathon radials, I had had enough. I just bought some six lug, 16 in rims and then some good 16 in load range e tires. Everything worked out fine until I put a 5,500 lb car in the trailer. It caused enough deflection that the top of the tires cambered in and rubbed on the wheel wells. So I took a hammer and finessed the wheel wells where the rub marks were. Keeping that in mind, I would get the narrowest 16 in tires you can. Something like a 215/85R16. By the way there's nothing wrong with putting a truck tire on the trailer.


All great info, Joel! Will pay attention to backspacing and wheel width. Hopefully I can find the same backspacing and width for the 16” wheels that the 15” wheels have, and go from there.

Moving forward. Thank you.


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Re: Race Car Enclosed Trailer Wheels/Tires……from 15” to 16” [Re: EvilB1Dart] #3045926
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as has been noted, truck tires work good, but be forewarned.
some states DOT's frown heavily on doing this.
lots of unknown DOT rules from state to state, so make sure you bone up on them before you travel.
that can save you from having a very bad day !
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Re: Race Car Enclosed Trailer Wheels/Tires……from 15” to 16” [Re: Hemi_Joel] #3045928
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235/85/16 on our trailer. Stepping up to the “G” rated Greenball Towmasters the best tire I’ve ever had here in tire he77! I’m actually on my 4th season on these, but I have cheated and stored them inside from May until Sept. prior to these I’d never gotten through the 3rd season on any E rated tire we ran. I’d guess we have probably 15k miles on them with two SoDak trips, and numerous Phoenix and Famoso treks. Ours is a leaf spring trailer and I think they put a longer hanger on the frame to accommodate. 6 lug 5k axle.

Wes…. Maybe you could get one of many RV places down there to accept a cash deposit to borrow a tire wheel assy and mock things up. I’d bring one of mine down that way but they’re pretty big.

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Re: Race Car Enclosed Trailer Wheels/Tires……from 15” to 16” [Re: moparx] #3046014
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Originally Posted by moparx
as has been noted, truck tires work good, but be forewarned.
some states DOT's frown heavily on doing this.
lots of unknown DOT rules from state to state, so make sure you bone up on them before you travel.
that can save you from having a very bad day !
beer


Thanks man, I appreciate the info!


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Re: Race Car Enclosed Trailer Wheels/Tires……from 15” to 16” [Re: J_BODY] #3046016
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Originally Posted by J_BODY
235/85/16 on our trailer. Stepping up to the “G” rated Greenball Towmasters the best tire I’ve ever had here in tire he77! I’m actually on my 4th season on these, but I have cheated and stored them inside from May until Sept. prior to these I’d never gotten through the 3rd season on any E rated tire we ran. I’d guess we have probably 15k miles on them with two SoDak trips, and numerous Phoenix and Famoso treks. Ours is a leaf spring trailer and I think they put a longer hanger on the frame to accommodate. 6 lug 5k axle.

Wes…. Maybe you could get one of many RV places down there to accept a cash deposit to borrow a tire wheel assy and mock things up. I’d bring one of mine down that way but they’re pretty big.


Thanks Jay. I'll check into it. I think if I stay close to current 15" width/backspacing I should be okay, but I'll definitely measure everything up before buying. Not too worried about the 1" upgrade, but will have to choose the right tire size, and right tires for doing the job.


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Re: Race Car Enclosed Trailer Wheels/Tires……from 15” to 16” [Re: EvilB1Dart] #3046364
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If you want a GOOD trailer tire, track down a set of Goodyear ENDURANCE tires. The ONLY USA made 15" trailer tire out there. I run them on all of my trailers, 205/75-15, 225/75-15 and 235/80-16, and have never blown one out. Every chinese tire I've run has eventually failed by either blowing out or separating at the edge where the sidewall meets the tread. There are quite hard to find, but Amazon found me 4 last month for my car trailer. I was running Goodyer Longtrail truck tires (225/75-15) until I aged them out at 10+ years and some growing sidewall cracks. I threw some chinese ones on since they were all I could get on short notice, but I had to replace them after a year for sidewall separations.


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Re: Race Car Enclosed Trailer Wheels/Tires……from 15” to 16” [Re: 67Charger] #3046389
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I too run Goodyear Endurance tires on my trailer and keep them covers at all times unless I'm pulling it.

The only reasons I'd with a 16 over a 15 would be if the load rating was greater (and I needed it), or the tires were tall enough to reduce bearing speed. My trailer has 15's on it and the Goodyears on it now are somewhat shorter than the previous bias tires that were on it, but I've never had any issues with heat in the tires or hubs.

Re: Race Car Enclosed Trailer Wheels/Tires……from 15” to 16” [Re: 67Charger] #3046392
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Originally Posted by 67Charger
If you want a GOOD trailer tire, track down a set of Goodyear ENDURANCE tires. The ONLY USA made 15" trailer tire out there. I run them on all of my trailers, 205/75-15, 225/75-15 and 235/80-16, and have never blown one out. Every chinese tire I've run has eventually failed by either blowing out or separating at the edge where the sidewall meets the tread. There are quite hard to find, but Amazon found me 4 last month for my car trailer. I was running Goodyer Longtrail truck tires (225/75-15) until I aged them out at 10+ years and some growing sidewall cracks. I threw some chinese ones on since they were all I could get on short notice, but I had to replace them after a year for sidewall separations.


Thank you! Also good to know IF I stay with 15” tires/wheels. My current wheels are 15x5, 5-lug, and 205/75-15 garbage tires on their last trip. I still want to upgrade to 16” but will look into the Goodyear Endurance tires either way. I always ran Carlisle tires on my trailers (open and enclosed).


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Re: Race Car Enclosed Trailer Wheels/Tires……from 15” to 16” [Re: justinp61] #3046393
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Originally Posted by justinp61
I too run Goodyear Endurance tires on my trailer and keep them covers at all times unless I'm pulling it.

The only reasons I'd with a 16 over a 15 would be if the load rating was greater (and I needed it), or the tires were tall enough to reduce bearing speed. My trailer has 15's on it and the Goodyears on it now are somewhat shorter than the previous bias tires that were on it, but I've never had any issues with heat in the tires or hubs.


Thank you. I really don’t need to, but I assumed the 16” tire choices would be better, maybe same or cheaper price, and plentiful. I’m going to check out the Goodyear Endurance tires.


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Re: Race Car Enclosed Trailer Wheels/Tires……from 15” to 16” [Re: EvilB1Dart] #3046425
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I thought China bought Carlisle due to poor ratings in the last 5 years but maybe they are still made here in the states. Birdtracker

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Re: Race Car Enclosed Trailer Wheels/Tires……from 15” to 16” [Re: birdtracker] #3046431
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Dealt with my last tire failure. Going to a LT truck tire. Really don’t care what the states think.


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Originally Posted by dart4forte
Dealt with my last tire failure. Going to a LT truck tire. Really don’t care what the states think.


As long as the rating is equal or better than OE knock yourself out! My limited research prior to going to a G rated tire (max load single 4400lb @ 110psi) was that people were seeing about the same rate of tire failure with the LT as the ST. My G rated tires have L rating up to 75mph speed.

Wes I see they have a 15” 12 ply…..

https://www.greenballtires.com/brands/greenball/tow-master-asc

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Originally Posted by J_BODY
Originally Posted by dart4forte
Dealt with my last tire failure. Going to a LT truck tire. Really don’t care what the states think.


As long as the rating is equal or better than OE knock yourself out! My limited research prior to going to a G rated tire (max load single 4400lb @ 110psi) was that people were seeing about the same rate of tire failure with the LT as the ST. My G rated tires have L rating up to 75mph speed.

Wes I see they have a 15” 12 ply…..

https://www.greenballtires.com/brands/greenball/tow-master-asc


Thanks, Jay! Sweet!


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Re: Race Car Enclosed Trailer Wheels/Tires……from 15” to 16” [Re: EvilB1Dart] #3046716
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I have Goodyear Endurance tires on all three of my trailers. One set has been on since 2016 and still looking good and thats say a LOT in the desert. They just went on a 2500 mile round trip to Texas and back with no issues. They are 15" tires as well.


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Re: Race Car Enclosed Trailer Wheels/Tires……from 15” to 16” [Re: Al_Alguire] #3046897
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Everything I've ever read points to 16". I upgraded to load E Carlisle (still 15") a few years ago. Zero issues since. The load D's failed a few. I keep the tires covered. Tri axle 32' carrying close to 10,000lbs loaded.
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Re: Race Car Enclosed Trailer Wheels/Tires……from 15” to 16” [Re: Al_Alguire] #3047060
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Originally Posted by Al_Alguire
I have Goodyear Endurance tires on all three of my trailers. One set has been on since 2016 and still looking good and thats say a LOT in the desert. They just went on a 2500 mile round trip to Texas and back with no issues. They are 15" tires as well.
I too have the Goodyear Endurance tires on my 24ft enclosed trailer. I got them on the recommendation of another racer and I liked I could get tham at Discount Tire and have warranty service in many parts of the country.

I have not used them enough to make a solid recommendation.

However I did notice they are noticeably heavier than my past trailer tires.







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