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Tesla on auto pilot crashes into jet #3036351
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Re: Tesla on auto pilot crashes into jet [Re: HotRodDave] #3036359
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YAWN...... Like any newer tech doesn't go through growing pains. Id not classify a 3mph lift the tall and rotate a plane a crash. Great click bait though.

And more vids from the same youtube poster....

Screenshot 2022-04-23 at 13-21-13 Tesla on Autopilot Crashes Into $3 Million Jet.png

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Re: Tesla on auto pilot crashes into jet [Re: Mr PotatoHead] #3036369
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I know they learning but how they gonna program it not to run into a jet, stop, then hit the "gas" and try to keep going? Looks like a video of my wife driving it.


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Re: Tesla on auto pilot crashes into jet [Re: HotRodDave] #3036375
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Pretty clear though they have a ways to go.


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Re: Tesla on auto pilot crashes into jet [Re: HotRodDave] #3036399
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From the comments, it was using a "Smart Summon" feature. Looks like operator error caused this not the car.

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"This incident involved Tesla’s “Smart Summon” mode. As the owner/driver, you are supposed to be within line of sight of the car. You hold a button on your phone and watch your car leave it’s parking space and come to you. If you ‘See” anything that would impede it’s travel, you release the button and the car stops. The car uses the lines in the parking lot, etc.

In this case, the driver/owner did not stop the car by releasing the button on their phone. I have no idea where they were, of course, or even if they were watching the car, as required. But this is an airport ramp - no lines! So the car was, in my opinion, “free wheeling!”

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So the programming in the car defaults and says I don't see no lines lets just guess how to get wherever we're sposed to go!

Reminds me of Blinken in the watch tower "guessing no one is coming"


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Re: Tesla on auto pilot crashes into jet [Re: HotRodDave] #3036431
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The owner summoned the car with the call feature. Though, it should have seen a plane...


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Re: Tesla on auto pilot crashes into jet [Re: HotRodDave] #3036438
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Some real fine equipment we got here. I suppose our shark might just eat it..................


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Re: Tesla on auto pilot crashes into jet [Re: Sunroofcuda] #3036460
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maybe the "Auto Pilot' was looking for a Pilot whistling stirthepot

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The owner summon thing is a bad excuse. The car should still be using it's sensors to know that there's something in it's way and stop.

Re: Tesla on auto pilot crashes into jet [Re: 5thAve] #3036533
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You would think the car would've saw the plane It's all possible the forward facing camera and/or radar is aimed toward the road not up high enough to see the tail of the plane. Still something ain't right here. If the car can park itself and back out of a spot to come fetch you it sure should be able to avoid something the size of a plane even if the operator isn't smart enough to tap or release a button on a phone!

Re: Tesla on auto pilot crashes into jet [Re: Dcuda69] #3036552
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It had no lines to follow, the computer was not programmed for that scenario so it fell back to line of site to find owner. You people are trying to put human brains i the car, nothing but a machine, amazing what it can do! Blame the programmer!

Re: Tesla on auto pilot crashes into jet [Re: Dcuda69] #3036563
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Originally Posted by Dcuda69
You would think the car would've saw the plane It's all possible the forward facing camera and/or radar is aimed toward the road not up high enough to see the tail of the plane. Still something ain't right here. If the car can park itself and back out of a spot to come fetch you it sure should be able to avoid something the size of a plane even if the operator isn't smart enough to tap or release a button on a phone!


I think this is the problem. A few years ago a Tesla on autodrive didn't see an 18 wheeler crossing a road and drove under the trailer doing about 55 or 60. The impact didn't phase it and it continued on for a while before it ran off the road and hit a pole. Apparently the computer was overwhelmed with information it didn't understand after the accident and kept going until the overwhelming data /confusion or chasis damage caused it to fail and wreck.

The driver was decapitated and died instantly. He had previously posted videos of his autodrive avoiding wrecks and touted how great the autodrive was on youtube.

Autodrive and driver-less are misleading names, it should be called driver assist. Well more accurately lazy person excuse to be irresponsible.

Re: Tesla on auto pilot crashes into jet [Re: IMGTX] #3036568
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Musk regularly lies about the capability of the self-driving and similar technology of his vehicles. Not surprising that he does so, but surprising so many of the cult members believe it, sometimes with disastrous results.


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Re: Tesla on auto pilot crashes into jet [Re: IMGTX] #3036573
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Originally Posted by IMGTX
Originally Posted by Dcuda69
You would think the car would've saw the plane It's all possible the forward facing camera and/or radar is aimed toward the road not up high enough to see the tail of the plane. Still something ain't right here. If the car can park itself and back out of a spot to come fetch you it sure should be able to avoid something the size of a plane even if the operator isn't smart enough to tap or release a button on a phone!


I think this is the problem. A few years ago a Tesla on autodrive didn't see an 18 wheeler crossing a road and drove under the trailer doing about 55 or 60. The impact didn't phase it and it continued on for a while before it ran off the road and hit a pole. Apparently the computer was overwhelmed with information it didn't understand after the accident and kept going until the overwhelming data /confusion or chasis damage caused it to fail and wreck.

The driver was decapitated and died instantly. He had previously posted videos of his autodrive avoiding wrecks and touted how great the autodrive was on youtube.

Autodrive and driver-less are misleading names, it should be called driver assist. Well more accurately lazy person excuse to be irresponsible.


programmers suck. I say that working in the field. not auto drive but doesn't matter.
it is my understanding that the truck trailer was white, so it didn't see it via the camera.
Why lidar didn't catch it is a question, if they even have it.
as to not stopping after a wreck like that, the question is, what sensors are in the pillars if any, and if they sheared off with little effort, it wouldn't trip a g sensor, so nothing happened according to the sensor or computer.
none of this is shocking, or a surprise.
dev's don't think of how it really works, just how they are told to code things.

the joke is
a wife asked the husband(read developer) to go to the store and pick up some milk. See if they have eggs and if so bring home a dozen.
so he comes back with a dozen gallons of milk.

This isn't a joke with dev. it is what they do. Very few think beyond what they are told the code should do. And none of them think beyond their little bit of code.
I don't know any straight up dev guys that could tell you how the software works as a whole. only the part they coded.

Re: Tesla on auto pilot crashes into jet [Re: HotRodDave] #3036593
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Who would be considered at fault if it ran someone over while self driving and driverless?

Re: Tesla on auto pilot crashes into jet [Re: RTSrunner] #3036603
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Originally Posted by RTSrunner
Who would be considered at fault if it ran someone over while self driving and driverless?


lol, just like real life, it depends.
were they crossing a 4 lane highway?
did they jump out from behind a parked car on a 45 mph street.

were they standing in an empty parking lot with nothing else around them and a tesla just ran them over?

Re: Tesla on auto pilot crashes into jet [Re: HotRodDave] #3036608
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Are auto insurance companies already factoring Tesla’s capabilities/dangers into rates?
(asking seriously)

Is there any way to know if a Tesla is on Auto Pilot
if you are passed by one,
or pass one on the Interstate?

Re: Tesla on auto pilot crashes into jet [Re: HotRodDave] #3036617
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Can't replace human drivers - stop trying.


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Re: Tesla on auto pilot crashes into jet [Re: Sunroofcuda] #3036621
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Originally Posted by Sunroofcuda
Can't replace human drivers - stop trying.


I dunno about that, a lot of human drivers need to be replaced. They don't drive any better.

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