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Hotchkis upper control arms #3011372 02/01/22 10:43 PM 02/01/22 10:43 PM
Joined: Jun 2007 Posts: 1,169 clarks summit pa 73cuda340 OP super stock
73cuda340 OP super stock Joined: Jun 2007 Posts: 1,169 clarks summit pa	I'm looking into getting a set of the Hotchkis adjustable upper control arms for my cuda. Has anybody noticed a notable difference after installing them? I do like the extra adjustability that's built in, but I'm worried about the longevity of the rod ends on a street car. I'm also not impressed that they come with cheap Taiwan ball joints installed, especially given how much they charge. 1973 Cuda 528 all aluminum Hemi, 4 speed, 3.23 Sure-Grip, (JA5) Silver Frost Metallic 1973 Challenger Rallye 340 1985 W150 Power Ram prospector 1986 Camaro IROC-Z 305 tpi

Re: Hotchkis upper control arms [Re: 73cuda340] #3011490 02/02/22 10:57 AM 02/02/22 10:57 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 12,028 Benton, IL. D DaveRS23 Special needs idiot
DaveRS23 Special needs idiot D Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 12,028 Benton, IL.	WOW! Over $1,000! But at least you don't have to remove them to adjust them anymore. I just shorten the rear arms of the stock ones by 1/4" and with the offset bushings have adjustment range to spare. Since I am not much of a welder, a local machine shop will cut them down and weld them back for less than $100. Done quite a few like that over the years. Master, again and still

Re: Hotchkis upper control arms [Re: DaveRS23] #3011497 02/02/22 11:12 AM 02/02/22 11:12 AM
Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 7,365 Iowa burdar Owen's Dad
burdar Owen's Dad Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 7,365 Iowa	I've got SPC arms for my Dart. They were on sale on Amazon super cheap so I grabbed them. Way cheaper then these are listed at. https://eliteracefab.com/products/s...YNEi85SB5sR6dC4EYcwC-fDOCs0aAiUpEALw_wcB

Re: Hotchkis upper control arms [Re: burdar] #3011509 02/02/22 11:30 AM 02/02/22 11:30 AM
Joined: Aug 2011 Posts: 2,853 Pattison Texas CSK master
CSK master Joined: Aug 2011 Posts: 2,853 Pattison Texas	I have the older Hotchkis arms on my 68 Charger, they correct some geometry issues that the other brands dont, have about 2k miles on them, so far so good, they correct what they call Caster gain, car drives great . Last edited by csk; 02/02/22 11:30 AM. 1968 Charger COLD A/C Hilborn EFI 512ci 9.7 compression, Stealth heads, 4.10 gear A518 ODtrans 4100lb,10.93 full street car trim 2020 T/A 392 Stock 11.79 @ 114.5

Re: Hotchkis upper control arms [Re: CSK] #3011798 02/03/22 08:02 AM 02/03/22 08:02 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 2,042 MD RTSE4ME top fuel
RTSE4ME top fuel Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 2,042 MD	I have the older Hotchkis UCA also but bought the whole kit shorty after they came out. I think I paid $1600 for the kit through Summit. Car doesn't get driven much so don't know about durability,

Re: Hotchkis upper control arms [Re: RTSE4ME] #3012142 02/04/22 01:23 PM 02/04/22 01:23 PM
Joined: Feb 2010 Posts: 270 Mountain View, CA 6 68rrunner enthusiast
68rrunner enthusiast 6 Joined: Feb 2010 Posts: 270 Mountain View, CA	The change to Proforged Ball joints was because of the fall off in quality in Moog. They are far superior. Trend analysis found that the Moogs were failing at a ridiculous rate, causing failures and warranty issues. The Hotchkis piece costs as mush as it does because they are made in America. and you're getting the best and most tested factory replacement suspension components on the market. Period.

Re: Hotchkis upper control arms [Re: 68rrunner] #3012245 02/04/22 07:49 PM 02/04/22 07:49 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 12,028 Benton, IL. D DaveRS23 Special needs idiot
DaveRS23 Special needs idiot D Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 12,028 Benton, IL.	Moog sucks now. They used to be about all I would use. But not anymore. They are just more overseas crap, only more expensive. ProForged is what I use now, if at all possible. Master, again and still

Re: Hotchkis upper control arms [Re: 68rrunner] #3012710 02/06/22 11:50 AM 02/06/22 11:50 AM
Joined: Mar 2007 Posts: 3,277 West Coast, USA jbc426 master
jbc426 master Joined: Mar 2007 Posts: 3,277 West Coast, USA	Originally Posted by 68rrunner The change to Proforged Ball joints was because of the fall off in quality in Moog. They are far superior. Trend analysis found that the Moogs were failing at a ridiculous rate, causing failures and warranty issues. The Hotchkis piece costs as mush as it does because they are made in America. and you're getting the best and most tested factory replacement suspension components on the market. Period. I literally experienced the issue of Moog's "fall off" in quality first hand. The picture is how it came to me in new in the box. This is after the first set wore to sloppiness in less than one oil change/service period. 1970 Plymouth 'Cuda #'s 440-6(block in storage)currently 493" 6 pack, Shaker, 5 speed Passon, 4.10's 1968 Plymouth Barracuda Convertible 408 Magnum EFI with 4 speed automatic overdrive, 3800 stall lock-up converter and 4.30's (closest thing to an automatic 5 speed going)

Re: Hotchkis upper control arms [Re: jbc426] #3012754 02/06/22 02:43 PM 02/06/22 02:43 PM
Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 371 Kings Beach, CA T tahoechallenge enthusiast
tahoechallenge enthusiast T Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 371 Kings Beach, CA	I've been using them on my Challenger for about nine years. It was a marked improvement over the factory arms with offset bushings. As far as longevity is concerned I have no issues. I do spray the heim joints about once a month with Triflow. They get squeaky if I don't.

Re: Hotchkis upper control arms [Re: tahoechallenge] #3013026 02/07/22 01:30 PM 02/07/22 01:30 PM
Joined: Feb 2010 Posts: 270 Mountain View, CA 6 68rrunner enthusiast
68rrunner enthusiast 6 Joined: Feb 2010 Posts: 270 Mountain View, CA	Originally Posted by tahoechallenge I've been using them on my Challenger for about nine years. It was a marked improvement over the factory arms with offset bushings. As far as longevity is concerned I have no issues. I do spray the heim joints about once a month with Triflow. They get squeaky if I don't. For those inclined to get even more longevity out of them, they sell a heim boot kit that I use on all of mine. Pack them with grease and no issues, and no lube service.

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