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Any issues with these on your truck(79)? I would like to use the ball type connector, is there an adapter to bolt on?

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myself? me no like. adaptor? no. it takes the flat gasket.

best fitting BB truck header is the hedman 79250. they have the ball/cone collector and are a good fit 2x or 4x4 chassis. the long tubes stay tucked up in the frame and do not hang down below the frame.

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As scratch said, no. If you're good with a welder, you could modify them. Summit has parts.............. Summit Linky


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Pricey but I have been very happy with the Hedman Ultras I got on my small block '79 Power Wagon


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These will have to be used to get the pipes hooked back up to the mufflers and stacks on a Lil Red truck. I’ll probably keep the clang after thinking more because I’ll have to make up and weld entire exhaust to the mufflers, has a crossover connector between each side, balance I guess. Original has ball ends.

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Originally Posted by cudaman1969
Any issues with these on your truck(79)? I would like to use the ball type connector, is there an adapter to bolt on?


I do not think they will fit without hitting the frame rails.

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Originally Posted by cudaman1969
These will have to be used to get the pipes hooked back up to the mufflers and stacks on a Lil Red truck. I’ll probably keep the clang after thinking more because I’ll have to make up and weld entire exhaust to the mufflers, has a crossover connector between each side, balance I guess. Original has ball ends.


are the OEM pipes for a BB? I would think it would use 2 center dump BB manifolds like the SB center dump mannys. I ran 2 center dump mannys on my d100 440 truck then hedman 79250.

I know what a SB set of stacks look like. with center dump manifolds and the down pipes/cross over/under frame cross over/muffs outside frame tucked up under the rocker with the step/stack hook up.

what are you willing to live with is the ? are you willing to cut/weld/modify the pipes you have? remove them and fab up a custom set of pipes with stacks?

I have run several mud trucks with center dump manifolds and some custom pipe work going under frame to outside frame like a LRE. then modify that to run long tube headers. I have done a few custom pipe/clone stacks on stepsides.

have it outside the frame on my sons 94 ram 1500. he has a set of ram tube manifold replacements - ram headers.

IIRC the best place to cross under frame is at the OEM spot. you don't "HAVE" to have the cross over tube. but it is supposed to balance and add HP. it can also be replaced with x-tube or relocated in the system further down stream.

I just did my SB stepside with a set of hedman long tubes/2.5 straight pipe/2.5 in/out magnaflows/ 2.5 tail pipes turned out right in the middle of the step...1 cut - add a 90* - hook up a set of oem stacks.

my main reason is/was the clearance for trans R&R. but on my stepside with the straight pipe set up in the frame rails it is 3 collector bolts and bolt on pipe hanger.

I would suggest 2 center dump BB manifolds over those shortys with a small modification to an SB OEM head pipe keeping as much of it as possible.

save it? chop it? customize it?

any local muff shops around? main thing is to find one that will build what you want the way you want it. my shop didn't understand at first but then I explained it is a mopar and not a chevy. now they get it when they R&R the trans for me. LOL!

Re: 440 shorty header [Re: scratchnfotraction] #3004066
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I have some of the pipes left but I’ll redo the whole thing (maybe in stainless). I have the stock manifolds too but the exit hole is 2-1/4 and not big enough for a 440 imo. Also have the Herman pipes too. Many options. appreciate the info, looks like you done a few

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I guess you could say miles of pipe.

don't get me wrong, the shorty's will work once installed/hooked up but are not the best HP performance wise. functional and daily driver duty they should work as well as any manifolds. I would step pipe size with them as I fab it up.

you can open the manifold up with a little porting on the outlet. if it won't port out to the 2.5 without being to thin/risk cracking... I also do them like this when I build a set of head pipes starting with a 2.25ID make the connection and use about 4" of 2.25 then swell it out to 2.5 run that back to the muffs, then swell the connection to a 3" in/out muff with a 3" tailpipe. this works good for daily driver duty and flows well while keeping it quiet & street friendly.

my 88-d100 440 truck lowered & tubbed has hedman 79250 with 3" straight pipes/3" in/out muffs with a 3" turndowns in front of rear axle. will be chopping them about 15" off of collector and adding a H-pipe with O2 sensor bungs/AFR meter before the H-pipe.

myself I make it cheap with aluminized exhaust pipes in 10 foot lengths. I change to much stuff around on my junk to dedicate any 1 set of pipes to my trucks. but they allways get a set of hedman long tubes for sure.

Re: 440 shorty header [Re: scratchnfotraction] #3004120
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Really sounds like you ‘been there done that’ what I want to hear. Those chrome shorties look good with the chrome valve cover though.

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what I really want is a set of those BB truck fender well headers so it is all out side the frame rails starting at the exhaust ports. now that's the cats meow!

let us know how it works out and what it worked out being. interested minds want to know, you know?







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