Re: detroit-polices-answer-to-street-racing
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I don't think it will hold up in a higher court, although seizing for drugs has.
Facts are stubborn things.
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Re: detroit-polices-answer-to-street-racing
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11/23/21 08:06 PM
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in some cases they take cars in Wisconsin when caught street racing. they also do this in extreme speeding cases.
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Re: detroit-polices-answer-to-street-racing
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I don't think it will hold up in a higher court, although seizing for drugs has. Like I tell my students. You may be totally within your rights but can you afford to fight for your rights in court. I see it happen all the time, I know of a long standing company who went bankrupt fighting a false trademark claim against them. They won in court but the fight bankrupted them so they closed anyway. In a courtroom nobody usually wins but the layers. I don't care much for seizure laws but the street thugs here have gone overboard here. Blocking major interstates and backing up traffic for miles just to do donuts in the middle of the interstate. At what point does it get so bad that drastic responses become appropriate? I am not sure. When I was a kid we found a deserted road to be stupid. Not so much any more. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rUuVzIviWBUIt happens elsewhere too.
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Re: detroit-polices-answer-to-street-racing
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When I was a kid we found a deserted road to be stupid. Not so much any more. Exactly
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Re: detroit-polices-answer-to-street-racing
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Not new... Been the law in Illinois and California for many years... Just my $0.02...
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Re: detroit-polices-answer-to-street-racing
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Not new... Been the law in Illinois and California for many years... Just my $0.02... I use to live in SO CA back when they started doing that Most of the ones I heard of being caught street racing were doing it on major streets in heavy traffic times , Not out in the boonys like they should have done
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Re: detroit-polices-answer-to-street-racing
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Looks like trickle-down politics is working, by that I mean trash that they've implemented in Canada are trickling down into the US. The RCMP here in BC, and local police detachments as well have been allowed to do this since.... hmmm, I'd actually have to check that. It's been a few years, anyway. There was a case a few years ago when some street racers from the lower mainland had to show up at a junkyard and watch their prized possessions be crushed. Apparently, this is how you build trust among the population? While I can't condone racing in a highly populated/busy area, if a bunch of kids go out to a deserted area and have a little fun.... what's the harm? Heck, even I've done that in the past.
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Re: detroit-polices-answer-to-street-racing
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In Florida for nearly ten years, if you are even a spectator to a "street race", your can be charged, and your car confiscated. Since its civil, most of the burden to prove you were not a spectator is on you, and the attorney fees are not recoupable, and they can be greater than the worth of the car. The legitimate constitutional question of the law IMO is whether the enforcement is mainly to "enrich" the confiscating agency, and therefore prone to abuse. Its sad nobody seems to care much what happens in another's jurisdiction., until it happens to theirs https://m.flsenate.gov/statutes/316.191https://www.fightyourticket.com/moving_violations/spectator_to_street_racing/
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Reality check, that half the population is smarter then 50% of the people and it's a constantly contested fact.
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Re: detroit-polices-answer-to-street-racing
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When I was a kid we found a deserted road to be stupid. Not so much any more. Exactly Back in the day (in Michigan)...we ( about 100-150 cars) would street race on a very loooong on-ramp.... leading to an empty unnamed freeway in southeastern Michigan. Sometimes cops would show up, and just block the entrance to the on-ramp with a couple squad cars, but we would wait a couple hours or so, and then go right back to it..sometimes till the wee hours of the morning. Good times.
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Re: detroit-polices-answer-to-street-racing
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When I was a kid we found a deserted road to be stupid. Not so much any more. Exactly Back in the day (in Michigan)...we ( about 100-150 cars) would street race on a very loooong on-ramp.... leading to an empty unnamed freeway in southeastern Michigan. Sometimes cops would show up, and just block the entrance to the on-ramp with a couple squad cars, but we would wait a couple hours or so, and then go right back to it..sometimes till the wee hours of the morning. Good times. Lived in Flat Rock Michigan in the 60s when I75 was being built. We did a lot of racing on the newly completed sections before they opened I75.
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Re: detroit-polices-answer-to-street-racing
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There’s tonz of action out on some of the Tampa bridges ..... Never heard of anyone getting for spectating
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Re: detroit-polices-answer-to-street-racing
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There’s tonz of action out on some of the Tampa bridges ..... Never heard of anyone getting for spectating Because theirs cars sucked and weren't worth confiscating?
Last edited by jcc; 11/28/21 09:29 PM.
Reality check, that half the population is smarter then 50% of the people and it's a constantly contested fact.
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Re: detroit-polices-answer-to-street-racing
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In Florida for nearly ten years, if you are even a spectator to a "street race", your can be charged, and your car confiscated. Since its civil, most of the burden to prove you were not a spectator is on you, and the attorney fees are not recoupable, and they can be greater than the worth of the car. The legitimate constitutional question of the law IMO is whether the enforcement is mainly to "enrich" the confiscating agency, and therefore prone to abuse. If civil forfeiture has taught us anything, the answer to that question is a resounding yes.
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