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detroit-polices-answer-to-street-racing #2988356
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In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice. In practice, there is.
Re: detroit-polices-answer-to-street-racing [Re: GomangoCuda] #2988386
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I don't think it will hold up in a higher court, although seizing for drugs has.


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Re: detroit-polices-answer-to-street-racing [Re: larrymopar360] #2988419
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in some cases they take cars in Wisconsin when caught street racing.
they also do this in extreme speeding cases.


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Re: detroit-polices-answer-to-street-racing [Re: Mr T2U] #2988466
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In Michigan, a vehicle used in a crime cannot be seized if there is a lien on the title. Not sure if they can do it for a misdemeanor, but I'm sure they'll come up with some felony to charge the street racers with.

I know the Troy PD had a pretty cool '32-'34 Ford coupe that they put lights on and used as DARE car after the dude got caught with a relatively small amount of drugs. Saginaw Sheriff drove seized vehicles for years: Mustangs, Suburbans, a Maserati, whatever they got. They'd decal them up and include "donated by a local drug dealer" on the back. He'd drive them for a while then auction them...

Re: detroit-polices-answer-to-street-racing [Re: nuthinbutmopar] #2988468
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Before I left Detroit in 1999 for the west side of Meeeeeeechigan .... when the FastFurious movies were in full swing ... I thought I heard they were CRUSHING cars of dastardly street racers .... yes ?

Re: detroit-polices-answer-to-street-racing [Re: nuthinbutmopar] #2988487
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I believe this is being done in other areas of the country as well. popcorn

Re: detroit-polices-answer-to-street-racing [Re: larrymopar360] #2988603
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Originally Posted by larrymopar360
I don't think it will hold up in a higher court, although seizing for drugs has.


Like I tell my students. You may be totally within your rights but can you afford to fight for your rights in court. I see it happen all the time, I know of a long standing company who went bankrupt fighting a false trademark claim against them. They won in court but the fight bankrupted them so they closed anyway.

In a courtroom nobody usually wins but the layers.

I don't care much for seizure laws but the street thugs here have gone overboard here. Blocking major interstates and backing up traffic for miles just to do donuts in the middle of the interstate. At what point does it get so bad that drastic responses become appropriate? I am not sure. shruggy

When I was a kid we found a deserted road to be stupid. Not so much any more.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rUuVzIviWBU

It happens elsewhere too.

Re: detroit-polices-answer-to-street-racing [Re: IMGTX] #2988605
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When I was a kid we found a deserted road to be stupid. Not so much any more.


Exactly

Re: detroit-polices-answer-to-street-racing [Re: GomangoCuda] #2988679
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Not new...
Been the law in Illinois and California for many years...

Just my $0.02... wink

Re: detroit-polices-answer-to-street-racing [Re: Sinitro] #2988807
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Originally Posted by Sinitro
Not new...
Been the law in Illinois and California for many years...

Just my $0.02... wink
iagree I use to live in SO CA back when they started doing that puke
Most of the ones I heard of being caught street racing were doing it on major streets in heavy traffic times down,
Not out in the boonys like they should have done twocents


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Re: detroit-polices-answer-to-street-racing [Re: Cab_Burge] #2988826
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Looks like trickle-down politics is working, by that I mean trash that they've implemented in Canada are trickling down into the US.

The RCMP here in BC, and local police detachments as well have been allowed to do this since.... hmmm, I'd actually have to check that. It's been a few years, anyway.

There was a case a few years ago when some street racers from the lower mainland had to show up at a junkyard and watch their prized possessions be crushed.

Apparently, this is how you build trust among the population? shruggy

While I can't condone racing in a highly populated/busy area, if a bunch of kids go out to a deserted area and have a little fun.... what's the harm? Heck, even I've done that in the past.


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Re: detroit-polices-answer-to-street-racing [Re: GomangoCuda] #2989172
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In Florida for nearly ten years, if you are even a spectator to a "street race", your can be charged, and your car confiscated. Since its civil, most of the burden to prove you were not a spectator is on you, and the attorney fees are not recoupable, and they can be greater than the worth of the car.

The legitimate constitutional question of the law IMO is whether the enforcement is mainly to "enrich" the confiscating agency, and therefore prone to abuse.

Its sad nobody seems to care much what happens in another's jurisdiction., until it happens to theirs


https://m.flsenate.gov/statutes/316.191

https://www.fightyourticket.com/moving_violations/spectator_to_street_racing/

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Reality check, that half the population is smarter then 50% of the people and it's a constantly contested fact.
Re: detroit-polices-answer-to-street-racing [Re: Sniper] #2989812
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Originally Posted by Sniper
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When I was a kid we found a deserted road to be stupid. Not so much any more.


Exactly


Back in the day (in Michigan)...we ( about 100-150 cars) would street race on a very loooong on-ramp.... leading to an empty unnamed freeway in southeastern Michigan. Sometimes cops would show up, and just block the entrance to the on-ramp with a couple squad cars, but we would wait a couple hours or so, and then go right back to it..sometimes till the wee hours of the morning. Good times. drive


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Originally Posted by RoadRunnerLuva
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When I was a kid we found a deserted road to be stupid. Not so much any more.


Exactly


Back in the day (in Michigan)...we ( about 100-150 cars) would street race on a very loooong on-ramp.... leading to an empty unnamed freeway in southeastern Michigan. Sometimes cops would show up, and just block the entrance to the on-ramp with a couple squad cars, but we would wait a couple hours or so, and then go right back to it..sometimes till the wee hours of the morning. Good times. drive


Lived in Flat Rock Michigan in the 60s when I75 was being built. We did a lot of racing on the newly completed sections before they opened I75.

Re: detroit-polices-answer-to-street-racing [Re: Dabee] #2989901
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There’s tonz of action out on some of the Tampa bridges .....

Never heard of anyone getting hammer for spectating

Re: detroit-polices-answer-to-street-racing [Re: dIc dOc Deity !] #2989987
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Originally Posted by dOc - 3.0 !
There’s tonz of action out on some of the Tampa bridges .....

Never heard of anyone getting hammer for spectating


Because theirs cars sucked and weren't worth confiscating? work biggrin

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Reality check, that half the population is smarter then 50% of the people and it's a constantly contested fact.
Re: detroit-polices-answer-to-street-racing [Re: jcc] #2989989
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In the Bay area during the 70's-80's they would ticket the spectators for "aiding and abetting" a street race. If I recall correctly it was about 100.00 fine eek shock. I can't remember if they dinged your license points or not. popcorn

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Originally Posted by jcc

In Florida for nearly ten years, if you are even a spectator to a "street race", your can be charged, and your car confiscated. Since its civil, most of the burden to prove you were not a spectator is on you, and the attorney fees are not recoupable, and they can be greater than the worth of the car.

The legitimate constitutional question of the law IMO is whether the enforcement is mainly to "enrich" the confiscating agency, and therefore prone to abuse.



If civil forfeiture has taught us anything, the answer to that question is a resounding yes.


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