Re: Can I use hose / clamps for pwr steering?
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That would be a hard no.
If the hose you are using has the female flare and the box requires an O ring fitting, there is a fitting that will solve that for you.
Kevin What would probably be useful is a link to the part rather than a picture.
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Re: Can I use hose / clamps for pwr steering?
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Search power steering adapters at Summit. power steering adapters.
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Re: Can I use hose / clamps for pwr steering?
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More info, don’t have enough room for adapter on pump, so I need something that goes from hose to Borgeson adapter, or from hose to box without adapter. I believe the Borgeson is 1.5 x 16 whatever that means I'm confused. Do you need to adapt the pump end or the box end? If there is no room at the pump end, use the hose that fits the pump and adapt the box end. Kevin
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Re: Can I use hose / clamps for pwr steering?
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Nothing is ever easy is it........... The crappy part is I just need this to work for a couple of months. Doing the Borgeson upgrade in preparation of swapping in a Gen3 motor. Wanted to be able to drive the car and check out the steering while I gather parts. All the steering hoses will need to be redone again.
Looks like I'll see if I can find a local place to swap/convert my old hose to fit. Just hate throwing money at this, but I'm sure a couple of months will be longer....... BDW - where are you in Florida? I can give you a reference or two of places to go that make hydraulic hose assemblies. The suggestion earlier about going to a heavy truck parts place is the ticket. I'm in this industry, & there are some great places all over Florida.
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Re: Can I use hose / clamps for pwr steering?
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There might be another option, the plug that screws into the pump housing Is removable. Can I just replace this receptacle with an older version that matches the hose end?
When I say plug, there's a sleeve that screws in to the Saginaw housing, then the hose screws into that.
I guess I have a 76 up version that takes a lip with o-ring. If I could find a 70 version that accepts the inverted flare style?
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Re: Can I use hose / clamps for pwr steering?
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Check out places in Florida here: https://vipar.com/distributors (look for places that list parts and services) Also check out any CAT dealers by you. LOTS of hydraulic repairs on the big equipment.
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Re: Can I use hose / clamps for pwr steering?
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More info, don’t have enough room for adapter on pump, so I need something that goes from hose to Borgeson adapter, or from hose to box without adapter. I believe the Borgeson is 1.5 x 16 whatever that means The female hole in the P.S. box is 16 millimeters in diameter. The thread pitch is 1.5 millimeters distance per thread. The large side of the adapter, pictured, threads into the ps box. The Borgeson box requires an adapter that either seals with an inverted flare at the bottom of the hole, or a flanged gasket/o-ring at the mounting surface. Take a close look at the parts required at the Borgeson website, and then take a look at the adapters they offer. Keep in mind the adapter you require, or a pressure hose, might be found at a wrecking yard. The ps box that Borgeson uses comes from the Jeep Cherokee, or so I'm led to believe. Easiest thing to do would be to aquire a hose that fits the box and a hose that fits the pump, install both, lay them next to each other in the car, mark them where they need to go together (include the clocking) and take the hoses to a hydraulic hose or Parker fitting store and have them biold a hose, or slice them together with the proper fitting.
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Re: Can I use hose / clamps for pwr steering?
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There might be another option, the plug that screws into the pump housing Is removable. Can I just replace this receptacle with an older version that matches the hose end?
When I say plug, there's a sleeve that screws in to the Saginaw housing, then the hose screws into that.
I guess I have a 76 up version that takes a lip with o-ring. If I could find a 70 version that accepts the inverted flare style? Yes, but pay attention to the size of the internal hole. It determines the flow rate of the pump. Too low of a flow rate for that ps box and it'll let you know.
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Re: Can I use hose / clamps for pwr steering?
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Give Mancini a call? I got the hose and fittings from them to make this. Only thing they didn't have was the 16mm inverted flare to -6AN for the Borgeson box - got that from Summit. Lines are PTFE and the fittings are specific to that type of hose. I think They're Fragola Real Street.
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Re: Can I use hose / clamps for pwr steering?
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There might be another option, the plug that screws into the pump housing Is removable. Can I just replace this receptacle with an older version that matches the hose end?
When I say plug, there's a sleeve that screws in to the Saginaw housing, then the hose screws into that.
I guess I have a 76 up version that takes a lip with o-ring. If I could find a 70 version that accepts the inverted flare style? That's what I plan to do if/when I get the mag engine & power steering pump swapped into my 72 pickup. I got that plug from the junkyard from a similar year ('72), and it looks identical to the one I took out of the '99 magnum PS pump (except for the hose threads, of course). So now I should be able to use my original '72 ps hose, with the magnum ps pump. There should be a shuttle/spool behind it, with shims to set the pump pressure.
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