Copper in oil filter
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09/11/21 05:18 PM
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Hi folks Opened the oil filter the day before the race tomorrow as it has been awhile. I used to do it after every day of racing last season when the motor was fresh . Never anything much. Talking 3-5 passes.
This season I got lazy . Changed the oil as normal often but not the filter. There are about 40 passes on this filter. Motor has maybe 60 .
This looks scary to me . Thoughts from experience?
There is one other spot with a heavy deposit , but having a hard time loading pics from the track
Last edited by Wirenut; 09/11/21 05:20 PM.
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Re: Copper in oil filter
[Re: ek3]
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09/11/21 06:42 PM
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looks like brass gear to me... Good call........ and easy to check.
68 Satellite, 383 with stock 906’s, 3550lbs, 11.18@123 Dealer for Comp Cams/Indy Heads
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Re: Copper in oil filter
[Re: fast68plymouth]
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09/11/21 06:52 PM
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looks like brass gear to me... Good call........ and easy to check. Thanks guys. Tomorrow I will be a spectator. I’ll drag it home after the race and get the gear out and let you know what I find . Thanks for the opinion and giving me hope . Gary
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Re: Copper in oil filter
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09/12/21 03:39 PM
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What does the bushing look like in the block? Ok I think I’m home now and can get a pick of it. One thing that did strike me was it appears to be flush and maybe even slightly recessed into the block . Not sure if I have any picks from the build that would show it Thanks for all the thoughts
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Re: Copper in oil filter
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09/12/21 03:41 PM
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do you have a collar on the distributor shaft trying to control end play? No
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Re: Copper in oil filter
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End play is not the culprit ... you have "similar" metals in friction contact with each other. If you'd had a thin steel torrington washer between the gear and the bushing you wouldn't have had this problem. Is there or should there normally be a steel washer under the gear? Could I have missed it in the rebuild? And if I did would it take this long to show itself?
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Re: Copper in oil filter
[Re: Wirenut]
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09/12/21 05:28 PM
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So when I had the gear out today I put some ot the debris chips next to it and they don’t look to be the same color . The debris looks copper to me I think you know what that means. Although, the bushing is usually more copper colored than the gear. See if you can get a measurement of how thick the flange on the bushing is, and compare to a new one to get an idea of how much is worn off it.
68 Satellite, 383 with stock 906’s, 3550lbs, 11.18@123 Dealer for Comp Cams/Indy Heads
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Re: Copper in oil filter
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09/12/21 06:00 PM
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factory never used any shim between the gear and bushing. Factory never installed roller cams !! Solid and hydraulic cams are cast iron, gears were all steel - dissimilar metals. Steel gears against a bronze bushing - dissimilar metals. Hence no wear issues.
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