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Re: Tesla plaid on the street
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The car is very inexpensive to drive since there is zero maintenance. Zero Maintenance for how long? And what is the cost when it is required. Or will it be a throw-away-car?
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Re: Tesla plaid on the street
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The car is very inexpensive to drive since there is zero maintenance. Zero Maintenance for how long? And what is the cost when it is required. Or will it be a throw-away-car? Nothing is zero maintenance. Might not have oil changes or similar, but you will need wheel bearings, shocks, wiper blades, etc at some point. But hey, let's not count that.
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Re: Tesla plaid on the street
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The car is very inexpensive to drive since there is zero maintenance. Zero Maintenance for how long? And what is the cost when it is required. Or will it be a throw-away-car? Nothing is zero maintenance. Might not have oil changes or similar, but you will need wheel bearings, shocks, wiper blades, etc at some point. But hey, let's not count that. I think shock/strut quality has vastly improved, I've had a lot of cars and only the highest mile beater junk needed shocks. I just voluntarily ripped the perfectly working factory XREAS system out of my 06 4runner and replaced them with traditional Bilsteins, it has 150K.
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Re: Tesla plaid on the street
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08/09/21 09:26 PM
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The car is very inexpensive to drive since there is zero maintenance. Zero Maintenance for how long? And what is the cost when it is required. Or will it be a throw-away-car? The uber driver I mentioned earlier was on his second tesla, his first was a model 3. He said he has had to do nothing but tires. I don't know what mileage he had on them though.
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Re: Tesla plaid on the street
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Wait till a proper charging station is put in building codes. It will happen. I was in Denver this weekend and my Uber ride from the airport was a Tesla Model Y. The owner was very educated about it. He said he gets an average of 275 miles of range and he does uber full time. He spent $300 to have a 220V outlet put in his garage that he charges with. He said if it is real low it takes a little over 8 hours. It was interesting to ride in, very quite, rode well, and it moved. He hammered on it for us before he dropped us off at the hotel. Quick and quiet with no Drama, didn't feel as fast at it was but it sure was rolling the numbers on the speedo.
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Re: Tesla plaid on the street
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08/10/21 01:50 AM
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The car is very inexpensive to drive since there is zero maintenance. Zero Maintenance for how long? And what is the cost when it is required. Or will it be a throw-away-car? I've owned the car for four years and maintenance costs are zero so far. I bought the car used for $7500 and haven't put a dime into it since. Still looks like a new car and everything works on it.
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Re: Tesla plaid on the street
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Ive been reading the new EV-s with the unit and install at home can be as much as $2500.
All depends on how much electrical work is required. I spent zero for a charging station since I just used an existing 110v wall socket. I didn't have a 220v outlet in the garage and my garage isn't near the breaker box so it probably would've cost about $1000 to have an electrician pull 220v out to the garage thru the attic. The new houses that they are building in our area all have 220v charger plugs in the garage now. It isn't required by code but the builders do it since it only costs a few bucks to pull the wire in new construction.
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Re: Tesla plaid on the street
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The car is very inexpensive to drive since there is zero maintenance. Zero Maintenance for how long? And what is the cost when it is required. Or will it be a throw-away-car? Nothing is zero maintenance. Might not have oil changes or similar, but you will need wheel bearings, shocks, wiper blades, etc at some point. But hey, let's not count that. Count what? I haven't spent a dime on maintenance in the four years I've owned the car so that is zero. The tires are 7 years old now but they have a bit of tread left. The brakes still look good after 7 years of driving. Not sure what else I'd spend money on. Everything works, nothing is broken, nothing needs to be fixed. Seems like zero to me.
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Re: Tesla plaid on the street
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08/10/21 06:28 AM
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Wait till a proper charging station is put in building codes. It will happen. I was in Denver this weekend and my Uber ride from the airport was a Tesla Model Y. The owner was very educated about it. He said he gets an average of 275 miles of range and he does uber full time. He spent $300 to have a 220V outlet put in his garage that he charges with. He said if it is real low it takes a little over 8 hours. It was interesting to ride in, very quite, rode well, and it moved. He hammered on it for us before he dropped us off at the hotel. Quick and quiet with no Drama, didn't feel as fast at it was but it sure was rolling the numbers on the speedo. I guess it could? The charger is onboard the car, its just like an appliance that plugs in. To really jam the charge in one you would want 480 or something, I would expect some rules around that lol.
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Re: Tesla plaid on the street
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08/10/21 11:38 AM
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as i have several 220 plugs in my shop/garage, how many amp service does a charger require ? i have two 50/60 amp welder sockets, plus one 30 amp for one compressor, and two 20 amp sockets that are the same size as 110 sockets, but have the standard [?] 220 blade arrangement so you can't plug in a 110 appliance.  My understanding is most EVs will use what ever is available up to about 50 amps. After that you need something that bypasses the charger in the car and provides DC voltage directly. I imagine these are pretty expensive.
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Re: Tesla plaid on the street
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08/10/21 11:59 PM
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Home chargers use a 50 amp plug but most of them run at 32 amps. A few run at 40 amps. You just have to shop around and it also depends on the car. Some EVs only accept X amount of current thru the plug. There-in is the issue...this car takes this charger....that car takes that charger.This charger will charge in 90 minutes.....this one in 9 hours. Needs to be some sort of standardization or it will never be accepted or will it be practical.
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Re: Tesla plaid on the street
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08/14/21 07:19 PM
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Do you guys think that like in California, that’s 1 million electrical cars plugged in that the power grid won’t go down? I haven't been paid to solve that problem. I'm sure there is an engineering solution for that problem but I'm not so sure there is a political solution for the problem. From an engineering standpoint you just need to build enough generating capacity and transmission lines to distribute it. From a political standpoint someone needs to pay for it, someone needs to approve it and people need to allow the plants and transmission lines to be built near or across their property. Good luck with any of that, especially in CA.
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Re: Tesla plaid on the street
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Do you guys think that like in California, that’s 1 million electrical cars plugged in that the power grid won’t go down? I haven't been paid to solve that problem. I'm sure there is an engineering solution for that problem but I'm not so sure there is a political solution for the problem. From an engineering standpoint you just need to build enough generating capacity and transmission lines to distribute it. From a political standpoint someone needs to pay for it, someone needs to approve it and people need to allow the plants and transmission lines to be built near or across their property. Good luck with any of that, especially in CA. Nuclear is the answer, they're called SMR's - small modular reactors
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Re: Tesla plaid on the street
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08/15/21 12:44 AM
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Do you guys think that like in California, that’s 1 million electrical cars plugged in that the power grid won’t go down? I haven't been paid to solve that problem. I'm sure there is an engineering solution for that problem but I'm not so sure there is a political solution for the problem. From an engineering standpoint you just need to build enough generating capacity and transmission lines to distribute it. From a political standpoint someone needs to pay for it, someone needs to approve it and people need to allow the plants and transmission lines to be built near or across their property. Good luck with any of that, especially in CA. Nuclear is the answer, they're called SMR's - small modular reactors Zero chance that CA would approve a SMR.
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Re: Tesla plaid on the street
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08/15/21 12:47 AM
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Do you guys think that like in California, that’s 1 million electrical cars plugged in that the power grid won’t go down? I haven't been paid to solve that problem. I'm sure there is an engineering solution for that problem but I'm not so sure there is a political solution for the problem. From an engineering standpoint you just need to build enough generating capacity and transmission lines to distribute it. From a political standpoint someone needs to pay for it, someone needs to approve it and people need to allow the plants and transmission lines to be built near or across their property. Good luck with any of that, especially in CA. Nuclear is the answer, they're called SMR's - small modular reactors Zero chance that CA would approve a SMR. Throwing a rod would have a whole new automotive meaning 
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Re: Tesla plaid on the street
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[quote=JCFcuda]Do you guys think that like in California, that’s 1 million electrical cars plugged in that the power grid won’t go down? Nuclear is the answer, they're called SMR's - small modular reactors it took bill maher '3' years to get his approval to start up his already installed solar panels... '3' years.... here in ny, it was under 3mos to contract/install and get the cert's for my solar... but then we have/had the luv-gov.... calif only has galvin...
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Re: Tesla plaid on the street
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EVs are impressive, if a bit bland.
They really need to work out the power grid to handle the massive demands if they want us to all change to electric. Then, disposal becomes an issue. Major issue. The pollution is still there but it comes at time of manufacture, disposal, and powering the generators.
One problem they haven't solved is range. My little C55 may not be as fast as a Plaid but I was able to drive it NYC to Dallas in a day and a half. 1700 miles in a weekend is a bit of a stretch for an EV.
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