Re: Truck ate another transmission...
[Re: Rhinodart]
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07/22/21 09:54 AM
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Man that sucks about the transmission. With your luck on transmissions I don't if going to the dark side would be any better. I do agree that maybe a medium duty truck would be a better bet. Several of us ran FL series about 20 years ago. Medium duties are a different world. If you don't like your local dealer service, you'll hate big truck service departments, at least back then. Half assed and half done seemed to be the order or the day. One of us had a Fuller Spicer FS6406 puke at around 40,000 miles. What I DID like, you can hammer on these things all day long without worrying about breaking stuff. They make one ton components look like light weight toys. Even the highly vaunted NVG 5600 isn't immune from failures. https://www.cumminsforum.com/threads/nv5600-to-fso6406a-6-speed-fuller.41978/ That is the only trans I haven't had the pleasure of destroying yet, the NV5600 but might give that a try. I had a CDL for a few years and worked at International as a truck porter, I can even kill Road Rangers...LOL! I am looking at a local International toter with the 444E (7.3 diesel in the Ferds) but haven't found out what trans is in it yet. I am also thinking about retiring... I'm with ya on the big R, When I finish the 1 car in the shop right now it's going to be put the brakes on big time. I'm done with employees and [censored] customers. I am fortunate that I haven't had many of the latter. I'll keep the businesst going but more of a sideline hobby, pick and choose type thing. No More Major resto's or jobs. Then I have a BUTT load of equipment and accumulated parts / inventory to get rid of. But that can be done at a leisurely pace. Good luck on the trans
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Re: Truck ate another transmission...
[Re: 3hundred]
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07/22/21 10:04 AM
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Man that sucks about the transmission. With your luck on transmissions I don't if going to the dark side would be any better. I do agree that maybe a medium duty truck would be a better bet. Several of us ran FL series about 20 years ago. Medium duties are a different world. If you don't like your local dealer service, you'll hate big truck service departments, at least back then. Half assed and half done seemed to be the order or the day. One of us had a Fuller Spicer FS6406 puke at around 40,000 miles. What I DID like, you can hammer on these things all day long without worrying about breaking stuff. They make one ton components look like light weight toys. Even the highly vaunted NVG 5600 isn't immune from failures. https://www.cumminsforum.com/threads/nv5600-to-fso6406a-6-speed-fuller.41978/ Thank you and good stuff to know. At least it was worth a thought anyways.
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Re: Truck ate another transmission...
[Re: OrangeProwler]
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07/22/21 10:17 AM
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The allison trans have issues too, my neighbor was stuck in texas with his for a week, dont put another dealer/factory trans back in the truck, spend the 8-10 g's and put an almost bullet proof one in from one of the aftermarket builders, i did the research a couple years back on these guys because i was going to put one in my 06 cummins but i ended up selling the truck and buying a 2020 ram laramie gas truck, just did not need a diesel anymore. i went back and re-read your psots and discovered its not a diesel, i still would recommend an aftermarket trans over the factory, good luck with the warranty from that dealer.
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Re: Truck ate another transmission...
[Re: theraif]
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07/22/21 08:42 PM
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you know dam well their is some guy with a mid 80`s dodge with the body falling off hauling a ton of junk daily with the trans fluid has not been checked in 8 yrs That's me but it's an early 90's. 308K and counting.
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Re: Truck ate another transmission...
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07/22/21 09:35 PM
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If a gasser is a must I'd be going for the ford 445" (7.3L) - some early ones has plug wire issues but its fixed now, modern pushrod bigblock FTW I'm not buying a Ford anything built after 1970, and even then it better be a screaming deal on a highly desirable piece that I can flip.
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Re: Truck ate another transmission...
[Re: poorboy]
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07/22/21 09:37 PM
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Rather then buying a new truck, I would be considering a trans specifically built for what you do. If this last factory trans lasted 280K for you, having one built just for you should last at least as long. When you get the "new specially built for you" trans installed, you can sell that "rebuilt" unit the dealership installed and recoup some of your money. Nobody builds a trans that Rhino can't destroy, and I mean no one.
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Re: Truck ate another transmission...
[Re: Rhinodart]
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07/23/21 07:34 AM
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I am also thinking about retiring... Track down a cheap, decent, running when pulled, used tranny from somebody that ya at least 1/2 way trust. Give up a couple square feet in the trailer to carry it with you. Kinda like ya probably do with oil, a/f, a belt or two. I'll bet you'll never need it.
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Re: Truck ate another transmission...
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07/24/21 07:53 AM
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Track down a cheap, decent, running when pulled, used tranny from somebody that ya at least 1/2 way trust. Give up a couple square feet in the trailer to carry it with you. Kinda like ya probably do with oil, a/f, a belt or two. I'll bet you'll never need it.
Getting +280,000 miles from a new 66RFE is actually a success, isn’t it? Trans would have lasted longer if the guts of torque converter had not failed? Logic would suggest: change the torque converter either at 250,000 miles or when periodic oil analysis shows a rapidly increasing concentration of “wear metals” in the ATF. Always buy new, unused (never reman) torque converters and transmissions. (meaning quality control is better at factories than at rebuild shops) Start doing periodic oil analysis of ATF, engine lube oil and differential gear oil. This analysis is an added cost, but not too different than paying $ for a “lifetime powertrain warranty.” Both are a special type of insurance. Throughout the mining, heavy machinery, transportation and military organizations - oil analysis is accepted as more benefit than cost. My 46RH transmission died at 187,000 miles when the Torque Converter lockup clutch failed and sent debris through the transmission. This happened after I changed out Mopar ATF+3 with added “Red Bottle” Lubegard to straight Mopar ATF+4 with no Lubegard. Maybe other Moparts members could comment on whether: torque converter failure is the root cause more than 50% of the time in various model MOPAR automatic transmission failures? In the late 1970s a company I was a supervisor at bought a Mack Midliner truck to make a 240 mile round trip five days a week. This “made in France” truck went 1,000,000 miles by 1987 without a major breakdown. The truck had a very good driver with a great work ethic who respected equipment. Mack came and gave him a jacket with “million mile” emblems. When someone said to me: “So Charlie Babb has done such a good job looking after his truck that now you are going to “reward him” by making him keep driving it until it breaks, perhaps causing a road accident where he might get injured or dies? “ So even though money was extremely tight, I bought Charlie a new Mack Midliner.
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Re: Truck ate another transmission...
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07/24/21 09:30 AM
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[quote=RWG75]
Start doing periodic oil analysis of ATF, engine lube oil and differential gear oil. This analysis is an added cost, but not too different than paying $ for a “lifetime powertrain warranty.”
WIX #24077 oil analysis kits are $15 each through Amazon, which INCLUDES the analysis. I run them at least once a year. Easy to get the report and use to adjust (extend) the oil change intervals.
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Re: Truck ate another transmission...
[Re: Magnumguy]
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07/24/21 02:25 PM
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I hate mopar reman transmissions, I have pulled apart 48REs with V8 planataries in the OD section and all kinds of weird junk, seems they just grab parts out of a big ole bin and if they physically fit they just throw it in there. I would find someone that knows that specific trans very well and have them build me one, it should still be cheaper than injectors on a duramax.
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Re: Truck ate another transmission...
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07/24/21 02:30 PM
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Track down a cheap, decent, running when pulled, used tranny from somebody that ya at least 1/2 way trust. Give up a couple square feet in the trailer to carry it with you. Kinda like ya probably do with oil, a/f, a belt or two. I'll bet you'll never need it.
Getting +280,000 miles from a new 66RFE is actually a success, isn’t it? Trans would have lasted longer if the guts of torque converter had not failed? Logic would suggest: change the torque converter either at 250,000 miles or when periodic oil analysis shows a rapidly increasing concentration of “wear metals” in the ATF. Always buy new, unused (never reman) torque converters and transmissions. (meaning quality control is better at factories than at rebuild shops) Start doing periodic oil analysis of ATF, engine lube oil and differential gear oil. This analysis is an added cost, but not too different than paying $ for a “lifetime powertrain warranty.” Both are a special type of insurance. Throughout the mining, heavy machinery, transportation and military organizations - oil analysis is accepted as more benefit than cost. My 46RH transmission died at 187,000 miles when the Torque Converter lockup clutch failed and sent debris through the transmission. This happened after I changed out Mopar ATF+3 with added “Red Bottle” Lubegard to straight Mopar ATF+4 with no Lubegard. Maybe other Moparts members could comment on whether: torque converter failure is the root cause more than 50% of the time in various model MOPAR automatic transmission failures? In the late 1970s a company I was a supervisor at bought a Mack Midliner truck to make a 240 mile round trip five days a week. This “made in France” truck went 1,000,000 miles by 1987 without a major breakdown. The truck had a very good driver with a great work ethic who respected equipment. Mack came and gave him a jacket with “million mile” emblems. When someone said to me: “So Charlie Babb has done such a good job looking after his truck that now you are going to “reward him” by making him keep driving it until it breaks, perhaps causing a road accident where he might get injured or dies? “ So even though money was extremely tight, I bought Charlie a new Mack Midliner. The vast majority of 4 speed rear wheel drive dodge transmissions I have had to re-build were caused by leaking cooler lines, leaking pan gaskets, lack of maintenance (including filters and periodic band adjustment that almost NEVER happens during service anymore). Almost never saw a bad trans that did not have leaking fluid or improperly adjusted bands.
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Re: Truck ate another transmission...
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07/24/21 02:32 PM
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I hate mopar reman transmissions, I have pulled apart 48REs with V8 planataries in the OD section and all kinds of weird junk, seems they just grab parts out of a big ole bin and if they physically fit they just throw it in there. I would find someone that knows that specific trans very well and have them build me one, it should still be cheaper than injectors on a duramax. Dad's buddy is on an extended tour with his 2011 Duramax. He damaged his camper and couldn't find anybody to fix it, so he dragged it home and set off again with a rental. Within a month he had to replace all 8 injectors at a cost of ~ $8,000, and now he's got to replace a 9th injector, yep, there's one for the DPF as well. I don't know the cost of this one yet.
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Re: Truck ate another transmission...
[Re: HotRodDave]
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07/24/21 09:21 PM
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Track down a cheap, decent, running when pulled, used tranny from somebody that ya at least 1/2 way trust. Give up a couple square feet in the trailer to carry it with you. Kinda like ya probably do with oil, a/f, a belt or two. I'll bet you'll never need it.
Getting +280,000 miles from a new 66RFE is actually a success, isn’t it? Trans would have lasted longer if the guts of torque converter had not failed? Logic would suggest: change the torque converter either at 250,000 miles or when periodic oil analysis shows a rapidly increasing concentration of “wear metals” in the ATF. Always buy new, unused (never reman) torque converters and transmissions. (meaning quality control is better at factories than at rebuild shops) Start doing periodic oil analysis of ATF, engine lube oil and differential gear oil. This analysis is an added cost, but not too different than paying $ for a “lifetime powertrain warranty.” Both are a special type of insurance. Throughout the mining, heavy machinery, transportation and military organizations - oil analysis is accepted as more benefit than cost. My 46RH transmission died at 187,000 miles when the Torque Converter lockup clutch failed and sent debris through the transmission. This happened after I changed out Mopar ATF+3 with added “Red Bottle” Lubegard to straight Mopar ATF+4 with no Lubegard. Maybe other Moparts members could comment on whether: torque converter failure is the root cause more than 50% of the time in various model MOPAR automatic transmission failures? In the late 1970s a company I was a supervisor at bought a Mack Midliner truck to make a 240 mile round trip five days a week. This “made in France” truck went 1,000,000 miles by 1987 without a major breakdown. The truck had a very good driver with a great work ethic who respected equipment. Mack came and gave him a jacket with “million mile” emblems. When someone said to me: “So Charlie Babb has done such a good job looking after his truck that now you are going to “reward him” by making him keep driving it until it breaks, perhaps causing a road accident where he might get injured or dies? “ So even though money was extremely tight, I bought Charlie a new Mack Midliner. The vast majority of 4 speed rear wheel drive dodge transmissions I have had to re-build were caused by leaking cooler lines, leaking pan gaskets, lack of maintenance (including filters and periodic band adjustment that almost NEVER happens during service anymore). Almost never saw a bad trans that did not have leaking fluid or improperly adjusted bands. I had Dodge do the trans service at 75K miles as was recommended, then I changed the filter and fluid at 150K and 225K, but had the engine light come on around 160K that was read as "torque converter over running clutch" and you could feel the slippage for the next 120K miles. The service advisor kept putting it off as the light would turn itself on and off over the last two years, so he said "we will change it out when it gets worse!" Well it got worse all at once, and I am paying the price since. Used my 2001 diesel truck this weekend, put 1,000 miles on it with no issues until I get near home, now when I turn right something is grinding, sounds like a u-joint, wheel bearing, or brake issue, it just never ends...
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