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Re: Aluminum Blocks and 440 Source Cranks [Re: W5Duster436] #2902143
03/23/21 05:56 PM
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Thanks for the input fellas! Hopefully he can compile your thoughts to good use.


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'71 Dodge D100
'70 Dodge W100
Re: Aluminum Blocks and 440 Source Cranks [Re: W5Duster436] #2902207
03/23/21 10:18 PM
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If I was spending $6k, I’d run a Bryant crankshaft..


China is the enemy.
Re: Aluminum Blocks and 440 Source Cranks [Re: 1972CudaV21] #2902241
03/24/21 12:42 AM
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Well then you would be spending almost 10k.LOL Sorry just saying...

Re: Aluminum Blocks and 440 Source Cranks [Re: Dragula] #2902270
03/24/21 07:52 AM
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I guess I am a little surprised by the hate for 440Source stuff. We have not had one failure, or one assembly issue with their stuff to date. We have had all kinds of assembly issues with said $6000 blocks though...And I can say, if it wasn't for 440Source $2200 stroker kits, I would not be racing. I would not be able to afford it..... Is a $3400 Bryant billet crank better, you bet your a$$ it is. Its also a 12 week wait last I checked before the Wuhun thing. Would I run a 440Source stroker kit in an after market $6k block, typically, yes I would up to around 850hp depending on the application....Would I spin it to the moon, hell no. It depends on the application.

I too do not like the idea of my money going to foreign stuff either, but I dare you to buy USA stuff all the way around.... You wouldn't be watching TV or using a cell phone or even have a way to reheat food if you truly avoided it. All your appliances, and electronics are pretty much from over seas.

I stop at buying foreign cars, but even some USA promoted domestic cars are made over seas rather than here...You all are technically driving Fiats aren't you? It might say Dodge or Ram on it, but it is made by a foreign company...I have not kept up on the content from Fiat, but realistically its tiresome to keep track of now a days, and some foreign cars are more US made than US cars....You really have to research it.

I digress too far....
We like the 440Source stuff, and stand behind their stroker products. I would be the first to tell you otherwise.

Q: What is the difference between a center counter weighted crank and a regular crank? Why are not all cranks center counter weighted?


'70 Cuda,...605 EFI Hemi Street Car (6.20 best pass, 1.33 60ft)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYw6RA-k5Bk (6.25 at 108.75mph from inside car)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zQEb9uxFng (6.25 at 108mph from outside car)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCvfzsC4NgM (9.9)

'66 Barracuda AWB Stretched nose Blown 440 Car in build stage

'71 Duster Drag Car 400 Low Deck 512 best 6.002 at 115.44mph
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Znuo3jMUXTk
Re: Aluminum Blocks and 440 Source Cranks [Re: B1duster] #2902293
03/24/21 09:51 AM
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Originally Posted by B1duster
Tell your buddy he should at a minimum be using Molnar
crank and rods in his $6k block. Only a couple hundred bucks
more, nicer stuff and better resale


I bought an all new 540 shortblock (built for truck pulling) with lots of good parts including a Mega Block and Callies crank..but for some reason they opted for Eagle rods confused shruggy
Still deciding on which rods to put in, and who will do it.



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Re: Aluminum Blocks and 440 Source Cranks [Re: merpar] #2902295
03/24/21 09:53 AM
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Originally Posted by merpar
Molnar cranks, Eagle, Scat, and several others are ALL from China. And I would guess from the same supplier. So just take your pick.

chinese foundry -.jpg


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Re: Aluminum Blocks and 440 Source Cranks [Re: jughed] #2902445
03/24/21 05:24 PM
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My intent is not to bash any one with this post. Just the facts! I still do buy stuff from 440 Source. I am actually expecting a delivery tomorrow. However, I will be thinking long and hard as to what crank to put in my next build or the Aluminum block that I have for a future build.

I purchased 3 - 440 Source stroker kits in 2007, All three were the same kit, 4.250 stroke crank with 6.535 rods. One of the kits went in my street car. That motor has very few miles on if but is still running fine. The other two were put into race engines. Both these engines consisted of stock 400, 230 casting blocks with the Chenoworth 3/8 thick main girdles that dynoed 750 hp plus. Mine had aftermarket BRC aluminum main caps and the other had aftermarket billet steel caps. The crank in my engine broke on run number 299. The crank in the other engine broke between run 340 and 360. Both of the cranks broke just behind the 7/8 rod journal. Actually you could almost interchange the pieces between the two. In my case the rest of the engine looked absolutely mint. The other rod bearings and the first three main bearings looked perfect.

As was mentioned in an earlier post. These parts have made having a 500 inch motor attainable for the masses. If it was my choice I would always try to purchase some thing made in the USA or Canada. However, the cost verses the quality is just not there. It is obvious that certain products are substantially better however I struggle with the cost being anywhere from 4 to 10 times the cost.

Maybe one day I will be able to post a picture on this site! LOL,


Thanx 451 Guy

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Re: Aluminum Blocks and 440 Source Cranks [Re: polyspheric] #2902448
03/24/21 05:28 PM
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Originally Posted by polyspheric
What makes a China hater:
1. has a job
2. pays taxes
3. does not get his political views from CNN



BINGO GIVE THAT MAN A PRIZE!

Re: Aluminum Blocks and 440 Source Cranks [Re: Stanton] #2902636
03/25/21 11:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Stanton
However, I can't help wonder why you'd want to put a budget crank in a premium block !!!


In my case I had already purchased three 400 blocks, none of which would pass sonic checks for the 4.375 bore I wanted for my stroker kit. I wound up with a 440source kit in an Indymax block. No complaints.

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