Re: Big block swap
[Re: moparmarks]
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12/23/20 11:34 PM
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Here is all the BB stuff. E manifolds, oil pan and dipstick, mounts for 75-80 4wd. P/S pump setup.
72 Satellite Sebring Plus 440, 72 Dart 5.9 4-spd, 68 Valiant, 73 W200, 78 D100 sb, 78 D200, 98 DAKOTA, . Moparmarks Parts & Restorations Desert Mopar Metal Grand Jct. CO 970-261-7039 http://moparmark.com/motormangj@gmail.com
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Re: Big block swap
[Re: larrymopar360]
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12/24/20 06:02 AM
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I get tempted to swap a 440 into my '79 W150, and am trying to have an idea of all the factors I'd have to deal with. One is engine mounts of course. Anyone use these? Any feedback or recommendations? There's so much to deal with when going from small block to big block, so mounts will probably be the least of my worries. I guess bolting to transfer case will be a headache? Will my clearance up front be changed significantly, as in fan to radiator? Is there so much I should just drop the idea? The factory 360-4 runs real good, and I could just keep driving as is for awhile, but I get an itch.... https://www.ebay.com/itm/1972-1987-...K-ENGINE-SWAP-motor-mounts/360445258443? Just another prime example of a reproduction company that does not what their product fits .This style of mount fits 72-4 2wd and 4wd and 75-up 2wd. Does not fit 75-up 4wd.
72 Satellite Sebring Plus 440, 72 Dart 5.9 4-spd, 68 Valiant, 73 W200, 78 D100 sb, 78 D200, 98 DAKOTA, . Moparmarks Parts & Restorations Desert Mopar Metal Grand Jct. CO 970-261-7039 http://moparmark.com/motormangj@gmail.com
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Re: Big block swap
[Re: larrymopar360]
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12/24/20 09:05 AM
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Over the last few years boosters have fallen in to the same black hole that heater cores fell in to.
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Re: Big block swap
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12/24/20 10:13 AM
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Here is all the BB stuff. E manifolds, oil pan and dipstick, mounts for 75-80 4wd. P/S pump setup. Would like a pattern of those mount since I’m making mine. How close does a stock pan get to the crossmember? I’m thinking of using C-Body hp manifolds, I have the headers but I have the red express and the pipe can’t go back that far to hookup to the muffler and side pipes. I have a 5.7 too but what a can of worms that is.! Also a 380-360, too many options
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Re: Big block swap
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12/24/20 10:40 AM
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Here is all the BB stuff. E manifolds, oil pan and dipstick, mounts for 75-80 4wd. P/S pump setup. Would like a pattern of those mount since I’m making mine. How close does a stock pan get to the crossmember? I’m thinking of using C-Body hp manifolds, I have the headers but I have the red express and the pipe can’t go back that far to hookup to the muffler and side pipes. I have a 5.7 too but what a can of worms that is.! Also a 380-360, too many options Here is shot. Could use shorty headers
72 Satellite Sebring Plus 440, 72 Dart 5.9 4-spd, 68 Valiant, 73 W200, 78 D100 sb, 78 D200, 98 DAKOTA, . Moparmarks Parts & Restorations Desert Mopar Metal Grand Jct. CO 970-261-7039 http://moparmark.com/motormangj@gmail.com
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Re: Big block swap
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12/24/20 01:41 PM
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That is a lot of room for the pan, I’m thinking it’s back that far for the front axel. Non 4x4 a regular pan will work. Looking good on the truck, I’d be afraid to get it dirty
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Re: Big block swap
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12/24/20 02:36 PM
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That is a lot of room for the pan, I’m thinking it’s back that far for the front axel. Non 4x4 a regular pan will work. Looking good on the truck, I’d be afraid to get it dirty Your saying a car center sump might work? That I don't know.
72 Satellite Sebring Plus 440, 72 Dart 5.9 4-spd, 68 Valiant, 73 W200, 78 D100 sb, 78 D200, 98 DAKOTA, . Moparmarks Parts & Restorations Desert Mopar Metal Grand Jct. CO 970-261-7039 http://moparmark.com/motormangj@gmail.com
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Re: Big block swap
[Re: Danny]
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12/25/20 10:10 AM
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Driver side valve cover is truck specific but as far as I know that's about Van applications, not booster clearance. Vans use a remote oil fill tube that runs from the front of the driver side valve cover up to somewhere near the radiator. Non van truck engines use the same valve cover but put a rubber plug in that hole.
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Re: Big block swap
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12/25/20 05:05 PM
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The valve covers on the 440 I swapped in were the original C-body ones ('77 Gran Fury).
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Re: Big block swap
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12/25/20 06:05 PM
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I can tell you from experience that a big block center sump car oil pan doesn't work well with a 4x4. I put a 70 400 into a 70s 1/2 ton that had a dis functioning 4x4 setup, but retained the front axle (a broke teenager that needed a truck, bought the 4x4 without a drive train and had a 400 & 727 sitting). After the install, I slid into a ditch in a snow storm, the front axle smashed the oil pan and bent the pickup tube. Gene So it will fit on a two wheel drive? Just eyeballing I thought it would even if notching the frame. A hammer and dolly can fix a valve cover too. 440 with six-pac ac unleaded heads and regular gas here I come.
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Re: Big block swap
[Re: SattyNoCar]
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12/25/20 06:41 PM
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The valve covers on the 440 I swapped in were the original C-body ones ('77 Gran Fury).
I think the ones in the macho above are too. No oil fill plug and the booster recess needed in the later Cs.
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