Previous Thread
Next Thread
Print Thread
Page 1 of 3 1 2 3
Can body stampings not match VIN *DELETED* *DELETED* #284248
04/10/09 11:38 PM
04/10/09 11:38 PM
Joined: Apr 2008
Posts: 1,195
Snowing in the north!
D
Dart 340 Offline OP
moparts member
Dart 340  Offline OP
moparts member
D

Joined: Apr 2008
Posts: 1,195
Snowing in the north!
Post deleted by Dart 340

Re: Can body stampings not match VIN [Re: Dart 340] #284249
04/10/09 11:41 PM
04/10/09 11:41 PM
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 1,304
Northern Indiana
M
mr_belvedere Offline
super gas
mr_belvedere  Offline
super gas
M

Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 1,304
Northern Indiana
Depends on the model year. 1968 and earlier used the scheduled production date and the SO # as the body stampings.

Re: Can body stampings not match VIN [Re: Dart 340] #284250
04/10/09 11:42 PM
04/10/09 11:42 PM
Joined: Oct 2006
Posts: 7,369
Iowa
burdar Offline
Owen's Dad
burdar  Offline
Owen's Dad

Joined: Oct 2006
Posts: 7,369
Iowa
You'r saying that the VIN on the dash doesn't match what is stamped on the body? Is it compleetely different or is one letter or number wrong?

Someone could have installed a new dash and didn't replace the VIN tag.

My #'s trans on my Challenger is stamped wrong from the factory. One letter is wrong.

Re: Can body stampings not match VIN [Re: burdar] #284251
04/10/09 11:45 PM
04/10/09 11:45 PM
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 29,654
Hamtramck, PA
A
Alaskan_TA Offline
Fluffy Balladeer
Alaskan_TA  Offline
Fluffy Balladeer
A

Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 29,654
Hamtramck, PA
Between this thread & the other one, you really need to post some photos to get real answers.

Re: Can body stampings not match VIN *DELETED* [Re: Alaskan_TA] #284252
04/11/09 11:04 AM
04/11/09 11:04 AM
Joined: Apr 2008
Posts: 1,195
Snowing in the north!
D
Dart 340 Offline OP
moparts member
Dart 340  Offline OP
moparts member
D

Joined: Apr 2008
Posts: 1,195
Snowing in the north!
Post deleted by Dart 340

Re: Can body stampings not match VIN [Re: Dart 340] #284253
04/11/09 01:07 PM
04/11/09 01:07 PM
Joined: Apr 2005
Posts: 15,134
Kelowna, B.C. Canada
D
DPelletier Offline
I Live Here
DPelletier  Offline
I Live Here
D

Joined: Apr 2005
Posts: 15,134
Kelowna, B.C. Canada
No fender tag, suspect VIN and no body stamps? Why would you bother?

Dave


1970 Super Bee 440 Six Pack 1974 'Cuda 2008 Ram 3500 Diesel 2006 Ram 3500 Diesel 2004.5 Ram 2500 Diesel 2003 Ram 3500 Diesel 2006 Durango Limited [url] http://1970superbee.piczo.com [/url]
Re: Can body stampings not match VIN [Re: DPelletier] #284254
04/11/09 01:20 PM
04/11/09 01:20 PM
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 42,714
Spokane Washington
ScottSmith_Harms Offline
Mr Wizzard
ScottSmith_Harms  Offline
Mr Wizzard

Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 42,714
Spokane Washington
It's pretty simple really. The body stampings (on a 1970 E-body) would be found on the radiator core support and on the cowl (both on the drivers side of the vehicle). These stampings should contain the sequential VIN# found on the Dash VIN Tag, the door VIN decal, the fender tag, the Broadcast Sheet, the title, window sticker, and any other dealer or factory supportive documents. If the stamping numbers don't match the rest of the items listed there's either (in no particular order):

1. A mistake in the body stampings (usually only 2 digits transposed or similar minor human error)

2. A mistake in the other supportive matching items/documents (pretty unlikely)

3. The car has had some changes made in the past (I.E. Accident/Metal replacement, all out re-body, or some other "unknown" change to the car).

Bottome line, if they don't match and you don't have good supportive documentation to prove whatever theory you come up with, it doesn't matter what any expert advises you, you are SOL on authenticating the cars originallity.


Re: Can body stampings not match VIN *DELETED* [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #284255
04/11/09 02:04 PM
04/11/09 02:04 PM
Joined: Apr 2008
Posts: 1,195
Snowing in the north!
D
Dart 340 Offline OP
moparts member
Dart 340  Offline OP
moparts member
D

Joined: Apr 2008
Posts: 1,195
Snowing in the north!
Post deleted by Dart 340

Re: Can body stampings not match VIN [Re: Dart 340] #284256
04/11/09 06:10 PM
04/11/09 06:10 PM
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 2,587
missouri, USA
moparmojo Offline
master
moparmojo  Offline
master

Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 2,587
missouri, USA
Well if is not a call you own than all I can say is beware! First thing that comes to most people's minds is, is this thing real and or stolen. Trust me that stuff gets around. I would hate to be left holding the bag on that one. You may not think much of it today, because you can get it at a bargain price, but ask yourself why is this so low. If your wanting some sort of affirmation of what you should do, no one here will really give you advice without really looking it over at least seeing some pics. To me, I wouldn't spend much time thinking about it. Maybe not today, maybe not tomorrow, but someday things like that could come back to haunt you. Not to rain on your parade, just beware.

Re: Can body stampings not match VIN [Re: Dart 340] #284257
04/11/09 06:52 PM
04/11/09 06:52 PM
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 16,844
Phoenix - surface of the sun
nomore65BelvJim Offline
I Live Here
nomore65BelvJim  Offline
I Live Here

Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 16,844
Phoenix - surface of the sun
so your saying the state issued title matches the dash vin tag only? and all the body stampings and engine/trans numbers match each other only?
pretty simple, someone had a title for the car the dash came from and did not have the title for the car the dash is now in for whatever reason
Walk away

Re: Can body stampings not match VIN *DELETED* [Re: nomore65BelvJim] #284258
04/11/09 07:56 PM
04/11/09 07:56 PM
Joined: Apr 2008
Posts: 1,195
Snowing in the north!
D
Dart 340 Offline OP
moparts member
Dart 340  Offline OP
moparts member
D

Joined: Apr 2008
Posts: 1,195
Snowing in the north!
Post deleted by Dart 340

Re: Can body stampings not match VIN [Re: Dart 340] #284259
04/11/09 09:20 PM
04/11/09 09:20 PM
Joined: Apr 2005
Posts: 12,271
Overpriced Housing Central
RobX4406 Offline
I Live Here
RobX4406  Offline
I Live Here

Joined: Apr 2005
Posts: 12,271
Overpriced Housing Central
If this thing is a 69 on car and the vin stampings on the rad support/cowl/package tray/trunk lip don't match the vin, it's got a dash assembly from another car in it as Jim mentioned.

Back to 74 huh... I know that switching out dashes was happening when I got into this stuff in the early 80's on all sorts of cars. Just because the title appears to be square, doesn't mean a car with that VIN currently attached is such.

Re: Can body stampings not match VIN *DELETED* [Re: RobX4406] #284260
04/11/09 10:09 PM
04/11/09 10:09 PM
Joined: Apr 2008
Posts: 1,195
Snowing in the north!
D
Dart 340 Offline OP
moparts member
Dart 340  Offline OP
moparts member
D

Joined: Apr 2008
Posts: 1,195
Snowing in the north!
Post deleted by Dart 340

Re: Can body stampings not match VIN [Re: Dart 340] #284261
04/11/09 10:49 PM
04/11/09 10:49 PM
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 42,714
Spokane Washington
ScottSmith_Harms Offline
Mr Wizzard
ScottSmith_Harms  Offline
Mr Wizzard

Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 42,714
Spokane Washington
Joel is wrong if discussing 1970 E-body cars, time to trade him in for a different "expert"


Re: Can body stampings not match VIN [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #284262
04/11/09 11:21 PM
04/11/09 11:21 PM
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 16,844
Phoenix - surface of the sun
nomore65BelvJim Offline
I Live Here
nomore65BelvJim  Offline
I Live Here

Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 16,844
Phoenix - surface of the sun
its an A body Scott, try and follow along, OK?

my guess is a '70 swinger...possibly a 340 car

Re: Can body stampings not match VIN [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #284263
04/11/09 11:24 PM
04/11/09 11:24 PM
Joined: Mar 2003
Posts: 18,678
Fresno, CA
Jim_Lusk Offline
I Live Here
Jim_Lusk  Offline
I Live Here

Joined: Mar 2003
Posts: 18,678
Fresno, CA
I talked to a guy back in the early 80s who had an original hemi e-body (the family had owned it since new or near new). The dash pad became trashed and cracked in the late 70s. They went to a wrecking yard and got a real nice pad out of a 340 car. The knew nothing about VINs or where they were at that time. And, no the car wasn't for sale, it was just a general discussion about mistakes that had been made on cars by their owners. Now, what happened to that car in the last thirty years or any other car that was treated similarly, who knows?

Re: Can body stampings not match VIN [Re: nomore65BelvJim] #284264
04/11/09 11:24 PM
04/11/09 11:24 PM
Joined: Apr 2008
Posts: 1,195
Snowing in the north!
D
Dart 340 Offline OP
moparts member
Dart 340  Offline OP
moparts member
D

Joined: Apr 2008
Posts: 1,195
Snowing in the north!
Quote:

its an A body Scott, try and follow along, OK?

my guess is a '70 swinger...possibly a 340 car




RIght on, Joel is the man. I also know Galen, plan
on heading his way in a couple of weeks.

Re: Can body stampings not match VIN [Re: Dart 340] #284265
04/11/09 11:25 PM
04/11/09 11:25 PM
Joined: Aug 2003
Posts: 18,575
Dreaming of the 808
AZ_A12_BEE Offline
I Live Here
AZ_A12_BEE  Offline
I Live Here

Joined: Aug 2003
Posts: 18,575
Dreaming of the 808
Quote:

Well so far we have run the numbers through for
theft and it comes up clean. Even the numbers for
the other vin build sheet for the car, so as far as
stolen goes etc it looks ok. More to the mystery
to come.





Did it get run through NICB? Local agencies purge records and a car can come back clean while NICB never purges


69.5 A12 Bee, first purchased in 1976, car 169 on registry 69 Coronet R/T 440/4 spd 69 Coronet 500 Conv H code 383 4bbl/auto 37 Plymouth PU Find your spot on earth and ride it.
Re: Can body stampings not match VIN [Re: Dart 340] #284266
04/11/09 11:28 PM
04/11/09 11:28 PM
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 16,844
Phoenix - surface of the sun
nomore65BelvJim Offline
I Live Here
nomore65BelvJim  Offline
I Live Here

Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 16,844
Phoenix - surface of the sun
Quote:

I also know Galen




you say that like its a good thing?

he cant help you legitimize an incorrectly vin'd car...oh wait, he can cant he?

Re: Can body stampings not match VIN [Re: Dart 340] #284267
04/11/09 11:40 PM
04/11/09 11:40 PM
Joined: Nov 2003
Posts: 6,519
Buffalo, NY U.S.A.
MrNormsTA Offline
master
MrNormsTA  Offline
master

Joined: Nov 2003
Posts: 6,519
Buffalo, NY U.S.A.
Quote:

Well so far we have run the numbers through for
theft and it comes up clean. Even the numbers for
the other vin build sheet for the car, so as far as
stolen goes etc it looks ok. More to the mystery
to come.

OH and Joel tells me that Canadian cars only had the
VIN on the Trunk area and the other less know spot for body stampings.

Thanks guys.




Vin on the trunk lip of an A body?, interesting. I heard that if you sand lightly on the passenger door, a big ole mapleleaf flag will appear as it was put under all paintjobs on Canadian cars. Also look down into the space between quarter panel and trunk extension on driver side, should be a picture of the queen of England placed there as well. Good luck on your treasure hunt. If you know Galen, why not give the boy a jingle.

Rick.

Page 1 of 3 1 2 3






Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.7.1