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Re: Spoke too soon about MAgnafuel Pumps [Re: A/MP] #2831510
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Anyone know which pumps maybe have sealed bearings and aren't so touchy
about running conditions ?
Aeromotive ?

Re: Spoke too soon about MAgnafuel Pumps [Re: hemienvy] #2831619
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Aeromotive or Weldon would seem best for constant duty .
I use the Aeromotive A750 , 1st ran for 5 or 7 years daily etc then ate itself up . I have another in it now , i have a spare Holley black cant justify the cost of a spare Aeromotive ,both are set up to interchange. I would not hesitate Weldon plus Weldon are happy to pull dont require mount below fuel level . At least the model i looked at though they say no ethanol . Not a problem for me .
I know a few guys running the A1000 no problems .
The Aeromotive run the motor in the fuel for cooling . But for parts repair must go back to Aeromotive . Thats not so good for me , Weldon you can buy the parts .

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Re: Spoke too soon about MAgnafuel Pumps [Re: dart games] #2831653
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Originally Posted by 69b1dart
i have a product engineering pump on mine,same as magna flow,same problem,seal went bad up in front of bearing,locked up the bearing,fuel filled the motor,ordered parts from them,he told me magna flow pumps is made in china,but down the road ill be going to a a1000,keep in mine i do run e-85


Been running the A-1000 with e-85 for bout 15 years now no problem so far up

Re: Spoke too soon about MAgnafuel Pumps [Re: racerx] #2831804
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Sorry to hear this Dragula! That's a tough way to end the season.

FWIW...My Aeromotive A1000 pump has been on my cuda since 2010 and has been flawless.


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'69 road runner, 440-6, 18 spline 4 speed, Dana 60
'71 Demon, 340, low gear 904, 8.75
'73 Chrysler New Yorker, 440, 727, 8.75
'90 Chevy 454SS Silverado, 476" BBC, TH400, 14 bolt
'06 GMC 2500HD LBZ Duramax
Re: Spoke too soon about MAgnafuel Pumps [Re: A/MP] #2831807
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MY magnafuel pump armature fell apart in the burnout, 2 seasons old 8 sec car, had a holley black in trailer ran fine!


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Re: Spoke too soon about MAgnafuel Pumps [Re: 440lebaron] #2831813
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Hmmm... conversation makes me think of the Holley Volumax pump on the Duster. Been under there since the late 90’s. No longer available so I’ll be in for a treat when it dies.

Re: Spoke too soon about MAgnafuel Pumps [Re: 440lebaron] #2831814
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About 3 weeks ago, at the bracket finals. My BG 400 fuel pump quit. Seized up, melted relay. Took it apart, lower bearing seized up. Was in the car for 16 years, replaced lower seal 2 years ago. Hour meter on car showed around 345 hours. I replaced it with a Magna Fuel Pro Star 500. I hope that I get as much life out of it, as I did with the BG 400.


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Re: Spoke too soon about MAgnafuel Pumps [Re: Dartsport540] #2831827
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I run a Product Engineering pump many years never a problem, I sent it back two years ago for a rebuild good people to deal with.... Dartsport540 sorry to see you break the rear at MG hope its not to serious..I was watching on Motormania TV I have a few friends that were there racing.

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Re: Spoke too soon about MAgnafuel Pumps [Re: 11secdart] #2831861
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I've had a Magnafuel pump now for 17 years. I bought it used, so who knows how old it actually is? Only thing I've had to do with it, was replace a shaft seal. I now carry a spare seal in my trailer.


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Re: Spoke too soon about MAgnafuel Pumps [Re: JERICOGTX] #2831878
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I had the 275 pump and filter combo in the car for 2-3 years and worked well. Was worried we were at the pumps limit and switched to a 500 pump filter combo to allow us to upgrade a few things for more power. Worked all last year, and this year until this past weekend. It was too hot to touch, it was siezed, and probably fried the new relay, and most of all, it let the fuel out, which means it ate the seal, which really concerns me the most. Never had a pump fail and let all the fuel out before. To be fair, I got this pump used from a guy and my 275 I bought new. So I have no idea how old it really is.

I pulled it out of the car yesterday, the filter had some fuel cell shavings in it and some other small crap, probably from when I up-sized the supply hose and fitting and drilled out the fuel cell. The pump I did not pull apart yet. Which way is the best way, take the cover plate off the bottom, or the two long screws that go thru the motor?

I noticed in the diagram posted above it shows to use two relay's, which I did not do. I used a single 30-40 amp one, and the pump is only supposed to draw 12amps, so I figured that should be plenty. It worked this long that way....And mind you, I had to put a pretty good regulator in the car with this unit. It would push right past the old one in the car. I put an Aeromotive Prostock regulator in the car when I upgraded to this big pump.

Last edited by Dragula; 10/12/20 12:30 PM.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYw6RA-k5Bk (6.25 at 108.75mph from inside car)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zQEb9uxFng (6.25 at 108mph from outside car)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCvfzsC4NgM (9.9)

'66 Barracuda AWB Stretched nose Blown 440 Car in build stage

'71 Duster Drag Car 400 Low Deck 512 best 6.002 at 115.44mph
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Znuo3jMUXTk
Re: Spoke too soon about MAgnafuel Pumps [Re: JERICOGTX] #2831883
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Fuel pumps can be fickle. I used Holley blue pumps from 1978 to 1994. I could get 1 year out of a new pump, then it would leak out of the vent. I would rebuild them with a Holley service housing for another year. After that, the shaft was done, and into the junk pump pile. I went to the step child BG400, in 1995. It was flawless until 2014. I rebuilt it with a new lower hsg, bearings and seal. It leaked after 1 year. I now have an Aeromotive 11203, to install. Time will tell.

Re: Spoke too soon about MAgnafuel Pumps [Re: Dragula] #2831895
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Originally Posted by Dragula
I had the 275 pump and filter combo in the car for 2-3 years and worked well. Was worried we were at the pumps limit and switched to a 500 pump filter combo to allow us to upgrade a few things for more power. Worked all last year, and this year until this past weekend. It was too hot to touch, it was siezed, and probably fried the new relay, and most of all, it let the fuel out, which means it ate the seal, which really concerns me the most. Never had a pump fail and let all the fuel out before. To be fair, I got this pump used from a guy and my 275 I bought new. So I have no idea how old it really is.

I pulled it out of the car yesterday, the filter had some fuel cell shavings in it and some other small crap, probably from when I up-sized the supply hose and fitting and drilled out the fuel cell. The pump I did not pull apart yet. Which way is the best way, take the cover plate off the bottom, or the two long screws that go thru the motor?

I noticed in the diagram posted above it shows to use two relay's, which I did not do. I used a single 30-40 amp one, and the pump is only supposed to draw 12amps, so I figured that should be plenty. It worked this long that way....And mind you, I had to put a pretty good regulator in the car with this unit. It would push right past the old one in the car. I put an Aeromotive Prostock regulator in the car when I upgraded to this big pump.


Most Pumps cannot be deadheaded.
Pumps are made to run full speed with a regulator and a large return line back to the tank.

Re: Spoke too soon about MAgnafuel Pumps [Re: Dragula] #2831898
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Dragula...we run the Aeromotive A2000 pump on the Camaro and it's been great for years. Might consider one of those.


CHIP
'70 hemicuda, 575" Hemi, 727, Dana 60
'69 road runner, 440-6, 18 spline 4 speed, Dana 60
'71 Demon, 340, low gear 904, 8.75
'73 Chrysler New Yorker, 440, 727, 8.75
'90 Chevy 454SS Silverado, 476" BBC, TH400, 14 bolt
'06 GMC 2500HD LBZ Duramax
Re: Spoke too soon about MAgnafuel Pumps [Re: RATTRAP] #2831906
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Originally Posted by RATTRAP
Originally Posted by Dragula
I had the 275 pump and filter combo in the car for 2-3 years and worked well. Was worried we were at the pumps limit and switched to a 500 pump filter combo to allow us to upgrade a few things for more power. Worked all last year, and this year until this past weekend. It was too hot to touch, it was siezed, and probably fried the new relay, and most of all, it let the fuel out, which means it ate the seal, which really concerns me the most. Never had a pump fail and let all the fuel out before. To be fair, I got this pump used from a guy and my 275 I bought new. So I have no idea how old it really is.

I pulled it out of the car yesterday, the filter had some fuel cell shavings in it and some other small crap, probably from when I up-sized the supply hose and fitting and drilled out the fuel cell. The pump I did not pull apart yet. Which way is the best way, take the cover plate off the bottom, or the two long screws that go thru the motor?

I noticed in the diagram posted above it shows to use two relay's, which I did not do. I used a single 30-40 amp one, and the pump is only supposed to draw 12amps, so I figured that should be plenty. It worked this long that way....And mind you, I had to put a pretty good regulator in the car with this unit. It would push right past the old one in the car. I put an Aeromotive Prostock regulator in the car when I upgraded to this big pump.


Most Pumps cannot be deadheaded.
Pumps are made to run full speed with a regulator and a large return line back to the tank.



The pumps mentioned have a built in bypass/return on them.

Re: Spoke too soon about MAgnafuel Pumps [Re: justinp61] #2831938
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Mine are returned, the regulator is built right into the pump after the filter and then another regulator up front....The old regulator up front would hold the pressure back and had to get switched out.

Originally Posted by an8sec70cuda
Dragula...we run the Aeromotive A2000 pump on the Camaro and it's been great for years. Might consider one of those.


If I change, I am going back to an Aeromotive pump. I really like them. My preference is towards another A1000 pump......Only 8amp draw carb or efi, and never had a failure like this one.

Last edited by Dragula; 10/12/20 02:23 PM.

'70 Cuda,...605 EFI Hemi Street Car (6.20 best pass, 1.33 60ft)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYw6RA-k5Bk (6.25 at 108.75mph from inside car)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zQEb9uxFng (6.25 at 108mph from outside car)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCvfzsC4NgM (9.9)

'66 Barracuda AWB Stretched nose Blown 440 Car in build stage

'71 Duster Drag Car 400 Low Deck 512 best 6.002 at 115.44mph
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Znuo3jMUXTk
Re: Spoke too soon about MAgnafuel Pumps [Re: Dragula] #2832074
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Another vote for Aeromotive pumps.


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Re: Spoke too soon about MAgnafuel Pumps [Re: Dragula] #2832231
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What size line and fitting do you have coming out of that pump? A 500 moves a lot of fuel, and it looks like you may be squeezing into a -8?

What fuel?

Is there any guard to keep it from getting hit with water, rubber, or rocks during a burnout? Looks exposed.

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Re: Spoke too soon about MAgnafuel Pumps [Re: A39Coronet] #2832276
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Pump is installed per their requirements....The infeed line is AN12 I believe. out line should be AN10 and then from the regulator its AN08. Return line is either AN10 or AN-8....


'70 Cuda,...605 EFI Hemi Street Car (6.20 best pass, 1.33 60ft)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYw6RA-k5Bk (6.25 at 108.75mph from inside car)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zQEb9uxFng (6.25 at 108mph from outside car)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCvfzsC4NgM (9.9)

'66 Barracuda AWB Stretched nose Blown 440 Car in build stage

'71 Duster Drag Car 400 Low Deck 512 best 6.002 at 115.44mph
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Znuo3jMUXTk
Re: Spoke too soon about MAgnafuel Pumps [Re: Dragula] #2832299
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i have an aeromotive 340 pump i plan to install in the tank of my charger.
i plan on using the 3/8" line that's there [not much hp] and running a 1/2" return.
electrically, i plan on using heavy gauge wire and a relay, but i don't understand why the magnafuel pump requires a double relay. shruggy
can anyone explain ? TIA.
beer

Re: Spoke too soon about MAgnafuel Pumps [Re: moparx] #2832311
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I think a lot of people get wrapped up in the bling of all these big fancy pumps. I am fuel injected but my pumps could be used with a carb regulator. I run two Walboro 255LPH pumps, one of them will support 600HP at the tires and I run two for redundancy and to make sure I always have enough fuel(they are staged). They are $120 each. I have had one die on the road but I believe it got trash in it, I live dangerously with no pre filters. I know someone who was running four of them on a 7 second Dart. They are simple, cheap, and reliable.


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