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Looking thru the 67 Plymouth service manual, looking in the section on the rear axels. It says the Hemi 4 speed uses the Dana -9-3/4 but the 440 4 speed used the -9-1/4 rear. I personally have never seen one and was under the assumption the Dana was used. Would this 9-1/4 be the same as the 70-80 truck rear? I did part out a 68 and 69 440 4 speed car and both had the 9-3/4 dana. Was it a one year only thing?

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Hemi 4-speed and 440 4-speed B-bodies came with a 9 3/4" Dana 60 rear.

440 4-speed C-bodies came with a 9 1/4" Dana 53 rear. This is not the same as the newer 9.25" Chrysler corporate rearend.

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What I thought to, from the 1967 Plymouth service manual. 67 first year for the 440 in the b-body’s right

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Originally Posted by DoctorDiff
440 4-speed C-bodies came with a 9 1/4" Dana 53 rear. This is not the same as the newer 9.25" Chrysler corporate rearend.


Wow, not too many of those puppies around.


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Factory Dana 53 that I removed from a 1967 Fury 440-4 speed

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Originally Posted by cudaman1969
Looking thru the 67 Plymouth service manual, looking in the section on the rear axels. It says the Hemi 4 speed uses the Dana -9-3/4 but the 440 4 speed used the -9-1/4 rear. I personally have never seen one and was under the assumption the Dana was used. Would this 9-1/4 be the same as the 70-80 truck rear? I did part out a 68 and 69 440 4 speed car and both had the 9-3/4 dana. Was it a one year only thing?


Typo

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Originally Posted by mccannix
Factory Dana 53 that I removed from a 1967 Fury 440-4 speed


Here is another one 3.31,perfect fit in a 62 B-body,no alterations what so ever.

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What I figured a typo, Checked today on my buddy’s 67 440 X, Dana for sure.

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Originally Posted by gtx6970
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Looking thru the 67 Plymouth service manual, looking in the section on the rear axels. It says the Hemi 4 speed uses the Dana -9-3/4 but the 440 4 speed used the -9-1/4 rear. I personally have never seen one and was under the assumption the Dana was used. Would this 9-1/4 be the same as the 70-80 truck rear? I did part out a 68 and 69 440 4 speed car and both had the 9-3/4 dana. Was it a one year only thing?


Typo


Not a typo, the Dana 53 has a 9 1/4" ring gear. From the '67 C-Body manual:

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Originally Posted by John_Kunkel
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Originally Posted by cudaman1969
Looking thru the 67 Plymouth service manual, looking in the section on the rear axels. It says the Hemi 4 speed uses the Dana -9-3/4 but the 440 4 speed used the -9-1/4 rear. I personally have never seen one and was under the assumption the Dana was used. Would this 9-1/4 be the same as the 70-80 truck rear? I did part out a 68 and 69 440 4 speed car and both had the 9-3/4 dana. Was it a one year only thing?


Typo


Not a typo, the Dana 53 has a 9 1/4" ring gear. From the '67 C-Body manual:


The original post was about the service manual stating of a 9-1/4 Dana in a B body. yet no such animal exists
THATS a typo.

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Read the OP again, no mention of what body in either the header or the text, only says "67 Plymouth service manual".


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I showed the book (all bodies) and the paragraph, said 440 4 speeds came with the 9-1/4 rear, Dana was EXCLUSIVELY (highlighted) for the Hemi 4 speed. So the book gave the wrong info, not enough info or was a typo. Made it sound like 440 b-bodies came with the 9-1/4 in 67 which I doubted but Chrysler did some crazy things. So I asked.
Looking up I see we’re referencing two different books.

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I believe its the interpretation. The manual references the two distinct axles. The car ordering and options would be dependent on the individual car line. The Dana 60 9/3/4 is stated exclusively for the 4 speed Hemi. I do not find the manual in error as it is a general repair for all models. It leaves the guy working on the axle the option to select what axle he is working on.

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Then the word exclusively should not of been used.

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Originally Posted by cudaman1969
Then the word exclusively should not of been used.


Exclusively used because the 4 speed and Hemi got it period.

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Well it’s not exclusive if the 440 4 speed GTX (b-body) got the 9-3/4 also. It implies the 4speed Hemi is the only one that gets the Dana 60 which it clearly doesn’t.

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Originally Posted by cudaman1969
Well it’s not exclusive if the 440 4 speed GTX (b-body) got the 9-3/4 also. It implies the 4speed Hemi is the only one that gets the Dana 60 which it clearly doesn’t.


That's part of my point. Other models may have the Dana depending on the order system. Exclusive means that this is all that is available or what you are going to get on a car ordered with the Hemi and a 4 speed no matter what model..

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Originally Posted by gtx6970
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Originally Posted by cudaman1969
Looking thru the 67 Plymouth service manual, looking in the section on the rear axels. It says the Hemi 4 speed uses the Dana -9-3/4 but the 440 4 speed used the -9-1/4 rear. I personally have never seen one and was under the assumption the Dana was used. Would this 9-1/4 be the same as the 70-80 truck rear? I did part out a 68 and 69 440 4 speed car and both had the 9-3/4 dana. Was it a one year only thing?


Typo


Not a typo, the Dana 53 has a 9 1/4" ring gear. From the '67 C-Body manual:


The original post was about the service manual stating of a 9-1/4 Dana in a B body. yet no such animal exists
THATS a typo.


Bill,how then did I end up with the one that went in my 62 with absolutely no modifications ? confused

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Originally Posted by 62maxwgn


Bill,how then did I end up with the one that went in my 62 with absolutely no modifications ? confused


No 9-1/4" Dana was ever avail as factory installed rear axle in a B-body. Period

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I’m 99% sure in 67 the 9-3/4 was not offered in c-bodies, a-bodies. Trucks got the full floating Dana in 3/4 ton and bigger. I’d like to know the width of the c-body 35, drum to drum

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